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Teutotes

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Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.

11-Jul-2019 18:53:16

Dilbert2001
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Teutotes said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.


Who care if they don't play "even 30 minutes a day" or play 16-24 hours a day like bots?

Do you have a problem when other people pay but don't play often? Do you have a problem that their $$$ numbers are adding up? Even if do have a problem, too bad, it is the money they made. It is the money they made from the players, including the 4 millions new ones they added within 6 months last year, who happily paid them. :D

11-Jul-2019 19:54:07

ELITE STACK
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Teutotes said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.



The 4-8m users stat is just the number of accounts created within the last year. This includes for rs3 and osrs. People make a bunch of alts + the bots in game count toward the number of players. It's the same thing as the homepage saying 272m total accounts created. Those accounts include every single account including banned accounts + alts. To be clear, It doesen't matter what stat they use Since banned accounts count toward those numbers too.
I need my blue charms back.

11-Jul-2019 23:12:32 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2019 23:16:24 by ELITE STACK

Teutotes

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ELITE STACK said :
Teutotes said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.



The 4-8m users stat is just the number of accounts created within the last year. This includes for rs3 and osrs. People make a bunch of alts + the bots in game count toward the number of players. It's the same thing as the homepage saying 272m total accounts created. Those accounts include every single account including banned accounts + alts.


What are you saying now? Bots and alts, you say? B-b-but Dilbert told about 4 million UNIQUE and ACTIVE accounts? Does bots count also as active accounts? And of course, he "forgot" to mention it includes OSRS as well...

11-Jul-2019 23:19:32

Dilbert2001
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ELITE STACK said :
Teutotes said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Besides, if they join and happily pay money, Jagex is happy too regardless if they stay in the game for 30 minutes or 8 hours a day. What's the problem?


My problem with this is that they don't seem to play even 30 minutes a day, they don't seem to play at all. I repeat: IF 4 million new users has joined last year in 6 months as you claim, it would have impacted the player count significantly.

It doesn't matter whether they play 30 minutes a day or even once a week. It would have been noticeable nevertheless. But there was no change in player count whatsoever.

Something just doesn't add up.



The 4-8m users stat is just the number of accounts created within the last year. This includes for rs3 and osrs. People make a bunch of alts + the bots in game count toward the number of players. It's the same thing as the homepage saying 272m total accounts created. Those accounts include every single account including banned accounts + alts. To be clear, It doesen't matter what stat they use Since banned accounts count toward those numbers too.


No. 8.0171 mil ACTIVE Players means players logged in continuously. Total users (not specifically logged in continuously) was 8.2858 mil at the end of the 1st quarter of 2019.

http://file.finance.sina.com.cn/211.154.219.97:9494/MRGG/CNSESH_STOCK/2019/2019-6/2019-06-15/5437523.PDF

11-Jul-2019 23:23:01

ELITE STACK
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And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players. I need my blue charms back.

11-Jul-2019 23:30:47

Teutotes

Teutotes

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ELITE STACK said :
And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players.


Let him believe his little fairy tales about millions of people who just donate money to Jagex and rarely (or never) play. Arguing with him is like arguing with a brick wall.

11-Jul-2019 23:35:56 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2019 23:37:06 by Teutotes

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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ELITE STACK said :
And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players.


Active players don't have to do Runescores. Jagex never put Runescores or any other in game content in their defintion of ACTIVE PLAYERS.

Jagex also stated 1.08 mil paid members too. Nobody said anything about Runescores or hiscores requirements.

You can also say the same about the total playerbase concurrent players too. They don't have to have any in game content requirement to be declare active.

When they pay to buy a membership or a TH key, obviously they are happy and Jagex is happy. Even if they don't pay, there are still happy to just login. Why will some people force themselves not to log in if they are not happy?

11-Jul-2019 23:50:04

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Teutotes said :
ELITE STACK said :
And continuously means what 2 days in a row? Bots can do that. Runescore hiscores which only requires 500 runescore to be eligible has less then 800k players. Just because people have tons of alts with 36 total level doesen't mean they are active players.


Let him believe his little fairy tales about millions of people who just donate money to Jagex and rarely (or never) play. Arguing with him is like arguing with a brick wall.


So? If they are happy just to log in they are good to Jagex. If they pay Jagex to log in or even don't log in, they are certainly happy to pay to make Jagex happy too.

Why should Jagex argue with happy players who log in and happy payers who help them to break revenue and profits records years after years, instead of brick walls who keep self-denying about Jagex's success. :D

11-Jul-2019 23:52:46

Silvery Lynx
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Gray Mouser said :
Little issue with Dusk lanterns.

It gives bonus if you pick for one of your top 5 skills, it does not discount any 200M xp skills.

Effectively I am forced to convert them to Dawn lanterns to benefit.


This is true. Since I have 7 skills at 200M, I lose out on this. Maxed skills IMO should be excluded.

12-Jul-2019 04:19:10

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