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Ijaz

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XJ9 said :
I don't think people should be this angry. The only complain I have is that there are so many promotions that is drives bond prices up like crazy. People are using them so fast, and they are going up so high due to how good promotions are lately.

I'm personally really bored of Runescape because there's nothing really left to do for a committed player. The only really good updates the past year half have been Telos, 3-5 quality of life updates, and I guess AoD? AoD lacks polish though so I don't find it that fun/hard of a boss.

I miss the old days of Runescape back in 2004-2005 era where there was always a big new quest, with a new area, or just new areas in general. There was always so much cool creative things but now a days it feels like when there's an update it's just a reskin of something else.

I hope you guys look back at the old days and see what made runescape successful. It didn't become popular because of it being an mmo, but because it was Runescape. It had things that no other game had. Look back and see what the Gower brothers did for Runescape and realize what made it special and popular.

EDIT: Also Jagex, as long as you keep your word on what you said with mtx, people won't leave your game. Just make 2018 the best year for Runescape and people will be hooked again. These people demanding a pound after you give them an ounce... you can't make them happy. They won't be happy until you get on your knees and beg for them to stay. Don't beg. Be strong, do what's right.


complaint* go back to league noob

23-Oct-2017 23:50:31

Zulisian
Dec Member 2006

Zulisian

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What scares me about all of this Mod Balance, is that it took a "reddit riot" to have you all at Jagex recognize that TH promo's haven't just become constant, but have taken over the front page too. There are so little game updates, that you end up reading more about TH promotions than you do new content. That is what's shameful here.

I've used TH to get specific skilling outfits and only raged when one of the promotions was very clearly broken, that being the dungeoneering outfit, where by I went over 300 keys dry for a skilling outfit piece.

It was never admitted there was a problem in the event, but it was clearly fixed as 2nd chance Tuesday I won the missing items nearly instantly.

It's hard to keep faith in a company happy to do that to their players, everyone in the MTX department knew fully what they were doing rigging that specific promotion and it pains me to say but I wouldn't be surprised if other promotions have been rigged.

That said I've only really take part in the dungeoneering outfit promotion and skilling lamp promotions so I can't provide any fair feedback there.

You as a company must remember you're on the eve of what is make or break for Runescape 3, mobile.

If your own current community are up in arms when 2018 and mobile is released, you could be in big trouble as it won't be the welcoming friendly place anyone wants it to be and whether those arguing on reddit are right or not, it still paints a terrible picture for the game.

You've said time and time again you'll communicate more, yet you're not, OSRS have done this so well it's insane to even start to understand why you can't. They have constant polling, engaged twitch Q&A community and generally seem to have a more "fun" development team that truely are there for insanely awesome game updates, despite the aging population and aging game engine they run on.

What OSRS has proven and, what RS3 hasn't taken on board is, quality is key. RS3 has lacked this for a long time.
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23-Oct-2017 23:52:28

NeuralNet
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You just gotta get rid of XP from TH imo. I love free XP as much as anyone, but it does cheapen the game. Just no XP from TH anymore please. No stars, no lamps, no bonus XP outfits. Just cosmetics :D
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24-Oct-2017 00:20:01

Xil-Cam
Mar Member 2023

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In my clan we've discussed a bit about the possiblevent demise of runescape and are working on methods to stay in touch and establish our clan in other games. For now the biggest thing is our discord server, and our rather well developed off site forum

24-Oct-2017 00:22:59

Miseryoflife
Aug Member 2006

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Things have honestly gotten to the point to where I'm likely going to let my subscription run out. I love rs but I honestly feel that the only way that Jagex will get their heads out of their asses is for sub numbers to drop. I truly don't care about MTX the problem is that we have had almost no updates this year. Literally the only updates that were memorable for me remember that they happened this year are : AOD, Menaphos, Dimension of the Damned. And the last one is only cuz it happened a week ago.

We have had more updates canceled or delay to next year than we have had actually put into game. I also find it interesting that I can't seem to find a record of the poll regarding expansions anywhere. But if I remember correctly we were originally promised 3 expansions and we have gotten 1. It is sad that Jagex is posting record profits when we are getting record low content.

While the statement itself is clearly filled with good intentions we have been burned to much to take it at face value we need action not pretty words at this point. This is not aimed at the developers we know you care, this is aimed at the management which seems to not care at all.
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24-Oct-2017 00:24:43

Anima Nexus

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..If feels akward to be apologised to so often by a game.

I wish it wasn't but its kind of pathetic. Whatever is going on over there, its a mess. If this is what is to be expected of china-scape I won't quite out of protest, I'll just stop playing.

2017 continues to be a bust if you aren't obsessed with slayer or pvm.

24-Oct-2017 00:50:09

Humanunkind

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Jagex,

Thank you for the response to the community. The vision you provided for the next several months was great for me to have confidence that change is coming to calm the masses.

From a business perspective, I am also tracking with you all on what you are trying to do and the aligning this to your 2018 vision. Hopefully this switch up in plans does not put too much of a wrench into capital planning - as 2017 is near an end...

A couple of questions if this is seen:
1. The topic of hiring additional staff was mentioned? Does this indicate that Jagex will be on a hiring boom over the next half year? Also - if new developers were hired today, when do you expect these FTEs to be fully functional?

Meaning - I am curious when you think there contributions will be seen by the players. I am concerned that people are going to run with the idea that people hired at a date when immediately make tangible contributions to the game(when a ramp up phase is needed).

2. The topic of switching up the rewards for TH was brought up as a major point. Could we get a little more information on what this could look like? Does this mean there is a possibility that the coins store will be merged with the new TH?

My thought here is that there is an opportunity for the micro transaction area to be met with the cosmetics demand users have asked for - while also rewarding those that decide to buy into packages.

All for now. Thanks.

24-Oct-2017 00:51:35

Wampbit
Feb Member 2006

Wampbit

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This limp statement doesn't seem to address any of the underlying issues and concerns of the player base.

The addition of another means of feedback neither adds transparency in terms of allocation of resources, nor can I see it helping to capture feedback from a different/wider playerbase. It's a means of placating a player base by giving them an avenue for easy complaint, which also helps save face by removing the prevalence of negative posts on reddit etc.

A second reskin of Squeal does nothing about the underlying issues, players aren't interested in devalued gameplay being represented in a different way.

Furthermore, if you want to shift the focus away from experience, you fail to justify why this could not be done in a manner that excludes the overt gambling of these chance based games. Put them in Solomon's and let people buy them. I think at this stage pound sterling flat xp boosts would be viewed as a positive improvement over an xp roulette. (There's some irony too in mentioning the high cost of graphical assets, whilst suggesting a shift to more cosmetics).

Lastly, and most presently, the statement fails to address the most singular concern: that the revenue and proceeds generated by the overwhelming mtx is not leading to high quality content. I suspect the player base would appreciate some disclosure regarding reinvestment into the game's development, as at this stage it appears as if there's a strong cash flow out of the game, with minimal monies going into current development. There are few updates, they are universally incomplete which plainly suggests a lack of allocated resources, they are poorly QA'd, and sadly they often fail to meet the player base's interests, rapidly becoming dead content.

In closing, to re-iterate my earlier statement, we neither need a new means to complain, nor resources to be spent in repackaging MTX, we would rather see some transparency regarding development, resource allocation, and investment into the game's future.

24-Oct-2017 00:53:16

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Seems like the same empty promises, no long term change.... at least I don't believe you when you say it. You [jagex] have creeped mtx since loyalty points, constantly pushing the boundaries, push to far and issued half-heard apologies only to repeat the process more aggressively. This seems like nothing more than a continuation of this pattern. In no time at all, far sooner than jagex "soon tm" you'll devise and implement an even worse/op promo before long.

your version of mtx devalues game play, its a skill based game...players spend time leveling up. giving rewards that make this easier that bypass normal game play just devalues what was done and devalues the way the game is played.

Why spend months getting 99/120 when one can just "buy it" from some overpowered promo?

Your version of mtx has replaced in game content, why bother for lack luster holiday event items when the ones of real quality are behind a gambling pay wall?
Seasonal events seem like nothing more than an excuse to collect more money from us. Why do we even pay for membership anymore?


You say you need the money to continue to invest in RS, yet there doesn't seem to be any such investments. The game engine remains outdated, the code is a mess (from what i here). content is delayed, canceled or never started. This year has been lack luster with many "reset" promises. Even game card promos took a backseat and just some rehashed colored skin was given. The only content that seems to have any effort put into it is TH..... its disheartening.




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