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Xetanx

Xetanx

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people are mad because the promos are strong but the updates have been bullshit all year. Mena was nice looking thats about it. If the promos are heavy but the new updates are great and it shows they putting time and money back into the game making quality shit people want then it would be ok. The problem is Promos hvy as f and updates are lol then it just shows they milking the cash cow and dont give a f if the game last. look at magister boss that shit was so bad no way it was even tested at phazes u cudnt even hit it and stuff within a week or 2 they had fix so much shit just shows u they put about as much time into quality as i do puncuation n grammr when i type

23-Oct-2017 21:51:38

Samid
Sep Member 2008

Samid

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Motor City said :
They're a freaking business.. They need to make money.

It's kinda sad people don't look at it from a business standpoint.



From a business standpoint then:

* I'd ask how you justify over 10 attempts at external revenue sources (Stellar Dawn, Idle Adventures, Transformers Universe, Funorb, etc.) only for all of them to fail at being self-sustainable.

* I'd ask how you justify 50 million in profit over two years, but not enough project leadership or resources to avoid delaying the Smithing Rework twice . That's a lot of money for a company who isn't meeting its own internal goals.

* I'd ask how you justify selling a company that averages 12m profit annually for 300m, when even a high estimate (10x EBIT) would put the company value at under 150m.

* I'd ask how you justify cutting your development staff by 50% during a "growth period."

* I'd ask how you justify membership pricing increases while simultaneously implementing MTX strategies and additional subscription fees (RuneMetrics, Wealth Evaluator, Premium Membership).


It's fine to equate MTX to a business decision and look at Jagex as a business. However if you do that, you open the door to many other questions about exactly where that MTX money is going.
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23-Oct-2017 21:52:01 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:13:08 by Samid

Rhydaxx

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Personally, I see nothing wrong with the micro-transactions. No one is twisting your arm to participate in that.

However, having said that, these transactions should be not at a cost to decent content for everybody.

I do believe it is very important to keep the game viable for now, and in the future. I want it to see it be around.

It all comes down to balance.

23-Oct-2017 21:56:22

N8yCakes
Aug Member 2015

N8yCakes

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Players will quit at higher level due to buying keys cause now they have little knowledge on what they are doing, or require quest to do things and refuse to do them because its too much effort. Or simply the game is no longer fun, a big part of the runescape appeal of logging is is socializing with friends while skilling/combat. If you don't have a reason to play, just being social will get old fast.
Bonds are a semi issue, as much of the lower level players will see a Nox scythe is 250m and they "wow i'll never get that" so they will spend a few bucks on bonds and help out their cash stacks. While a returning player that hasn't played in years (over 3 is reasonable) may not know how to make cash effectively anymore buying bonds to help himself get started makes a little more sense than "i'm literally to lazy to grind 2-3m an hour until i have 250m". Bonds did change the price in items, making gold buyable in a sense, it rose the value in items, requires a larger amount of gold for the items people want. easy surplus and supply/demand factor. If bonds are a set price, they will have a smaller influence on how players will make money, Plenty of people buy bonds cause they can, but few people actually work for their billions of gold(expensive 100m or more drops and clue scrolls rewards excluded for simple rng factor on income).
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23-Oct-2017 21:58:37

N8yCakes
Aug Member 2015

N8yCakes

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As for events, just make the events actually worth doing. A lot of people do events for the exp, or rarely for the cosmetics. So make them worth doing. If events, example ebing novtumbefest have no daily/exp cap on them, dont make the rewards buyable from NPC's at the event. This now allows players to farm there all day for tokens and the ability to just purchase. Kind of ruins the the other in that way. Why buy tokens when you can easily farm them or buy them off the people who have been there all day? But then why grind them when they are purchasable/tradeable. If a event has a cap on the daily activity/exp, then sure tradeable tokens makes sense cause your not limitng the amount of tokens available to be earned ingame.

As for afk scape? Just encourage more effort into the game. not afk to max, then quit playing cause your too lazy to do anything. Give the players a reason to log in and d o stuff. Or atleast make players achievements mean something. Sure my max cape means alot to me, but to someone who afk'd their way to max they see it as just another cape. Give me a reason to want to keep putting effort into a game people are getting the same achievements for with 0 effort. This could also be solved by changing what lobbies players when they afk to long, or decrease the timer or making certain skills more click intensive, such as thieving on Prif elves is extremely afk.
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23-Oct-2017 22:03:03

Basketball
Jan Member 2023

Basketball

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RuneScape gives everyone a chance of accessibility to
everything
it has to offer, without asking for a single penny. The MTX are completely optional and impact the game only to those that have hatred towards others that achieve their goals by speeding things up with the Treasure Hunter. Something anyone could realistically do, as bonds bought with in-game currency offer you the possibility of buying anything real money gets you.

Although it's true some promo's are out of hand, why must the community react childishly, instead of giving back
constructive feedback
now that they're acknowledging their mistakes and wanting to improve.
Jagex does care about it's community and it's easier to say they don't and bandwagon, than to thank them for their hard work and dedication.
The only thing killing the game is the community itself for not being supportive when they most need us.
It's true that the quality of the updates has decreased, perhaps being patient and waiting for the many great projects in progress will balance out how we see their "slacking".

RuneScape is like no other game out there, don't bring down something we all enjoy, even those that are cancelling their membership and saying they're "out".

My simple proposal is:

- Keep the Treasure Hunter feature, allowing players to get lucky and win some XP, Skilling outfits and unique items.
- Release every now and then, perhaps once a month a nice promo that intrigue those that desire the extra XP to spend a little extra hard earned GP or real life currency. (
Goal being make it something occasional but really intriguing
)
- Don't work on too many long term projects, perhaps give something satisfying in between as well as something big, as patience brings greater benefits.

I'm sure they will do their best to improve the game and satisfy the community the best possible, don't bite the hand that feeds you. :) Blessed Souls
for a chill clan
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:) Raid FC, for your daily raids. :)
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23-Oct-2017 22:07:11 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:11:54 by Basketball

Basketball
Jan Member 2023

Basketball

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Rhydaxx said :
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the micro-transactions. No one is twisting your arm to participate in that.

However, having said that, these transactions should be not at a cost to decent content for everybody.

I do believe it is very important to keep the game viable for now, and in the future. I want it to see it be around.

It all comes down to balance.


This. :) Blessed Souls
for a chill clan
:)
:) Raid FC, for your daily raids. :)
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Heat
Nation

23-Oct-2017 22:09:18

Gerrard

Gerrard

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People genuinely thought Jagex were going to remove 40% of their revenue over a few hundred people on reddit whining for a month.. talk about delusion.

The nail in the coffin was set when IVP and Mod MMG brought MTX into the game. And that coffin was fully sealed when Chinese Overloads took over the game; not a company that cares about the development/future of games.

Enjoy the game for what it is, its been going on for 17 years and you should not be so entitled. We've had weekly updates (albeit; some bad) but Jagex owe us nothing in the end except good updates.. which is what we pay membership for. They've acknowledged they messed up this year and given reasonable points as to why.. (expansions model.. rs mobile etc)

If you're at the point where you're complaining more than actually playing the game (which I feel, quite a few of you are), you should just leave and put your energy into something else.

23-Oct-2017 22:12:31 - Last edited on 23-Oct-2017 22:15:32 by Gerrard

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