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WarmongerJ
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I'm still trying to figure out where the source of everyone's moral outrage is coming from. It's not like its hard to level up skills in RS3. I mean sure, if the top xp rates for skills were 80k xp/hr and these promos were a thing -- there would be a problem. That's not the reality of RS3, though. Some of the lowest xp rates in the game are 300k+xp/hr. Some of the higher xp rates hit 1m+ xp/hr. If someone wants to spend money to speed up their (already fast) progression, then why shouldn't they be able to?

Go play Ironman if you want to *purify* yourself of the "wicked" TH.

Quite frankly, I don't know why JaGex allows comments on their TH promos to begin with. All you find is the same comments talking about someone's *immeasurable disappointment* that a company is trying to make money. This game isn't P2W. Using lamps for xp isn't going to give you an advantage over someone else. Its not like JaGex is selling a Seren Godbow for $60. Sure you can buy bonds, but that will cost you a significant amount of money. Even then, you still have to have the proper skill set to use it correctly.

Its too bad that JaGex doesn't just get rid of these promo announcements altogether and just put an in-game message/ tab that lets a player know of the upcoming/ on-going TH promos . That way they can dodge these comment sections where all people do is moan about how *evil* micro-transactions are. God forbid a company that wants to make money.

One more side note -- These promos most likely don't take any time away from developing new content & updates. Most of these promos are repeats. Hence, JaGex could probably just input a line of code & boom -- You have a smouldering lamps promo.

Looking forward to all the hate comments regarding how I'm defending JaGex.
"The first and greatest victory is to conquer yourself; to be conquered by yourself is of all things most shameful and vile." ~Plato~

26-Apr-2018 00:01:43 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2018 00:06:47 by WarmongerJ

Kiaric
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WarmongerJ said :
I'm still trying to figure out where the source of everyone's moral outrage is coming from. It's not like its hard to level up skills in RS3. I mean sure, if the top xp rates for skills were 80k xp/hr and these promos were a thing -- there would be a problem. That's not the reality of RS3, though. Some of the lowest xp rates in the game are 300k+xp/hr. Some of the higher xp rates hit 1m+ xp/hr. If someone wants to spend money to speed up their (already fast) progression, then why shouldn't they be able to?

Go play Ironman if you want to *purify* yourself of the "wicked" TH.

Quite frankly, I don't know why JaGex allows comments on their TH promos to begin with. All you find is the same comments talking about someone's *immeasurable disappointment* that a company is trying to make money. This game isn't P2W. Using lamps for xp isn't going to give you an advantage over someone else. Its not like JaGex is selling a Seren Godbow for $60. Sure you can buy bonds, but that will cost you a significant amount of money. Even then, you still have to have the proper skill set to use it correctly.

Its too bad that JaGex doesn't just get rid of these promo announcements altogether and just put an in-game message/ tab that lets a player know of the upcoming/ on-going TH promos . That way they can dodge these comment sections where all people do is moan about how *evil* micro-transactions are. God forbid a company that wants to make money.

One more side note -- These promos most likely don't take any time away from developing new content & updates. Most of these promos are repeats. Hence, JaGex could probably just input a line of code & boom -- You have a smouldering lamps promo.

Looking forward to all the hate comments regarding how I'm defending JaGex.


Honestly? I agree with this entirely.
Hi I've been here for like, 8 years and have successfully managed to max none of my skills

26-Apr-2018 00:12:53

boidae
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WarmongerJ said :
I'm still trying to figure out where the source of everyone's moral outrage is coming from. It's not like its hard to level up skills in RS3. I mean sure, if the top xp rates for skills were 80k xp/hr and these promos were a thing -- there would be a problem. That's not the reality of RS3, though. Some of the lowest xp rates in the game are 300k+xp/hr. Some of the higher xp rates hit 1m+ xp/hr. If someone wants to spend money to speed up their (already fast) progression, then why shouldn't they be able to?

Go play Ironman if you want to *purify* yourself of the "wicked" TH.

Quite frankly, I don't know why JaGex allows comments on their TH promos to begin with. All you find is the same comments talking about someone's *immeasurable disappointment* that a company is trying to make money. This game isn't P2W. Using lamps for xp isn't going to give you an advantage over someone else. Its not like JaGex is selling a Seren Godbow for $60. Sure you can buy bonds, but that will cost you a significant amount of money. Even then, you still have to have the proper skill set to use it correctly.
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the problems that now th is like 10x what squeal was giving, raritys are played with
since theres a promo literally every day whats next 20x the exp
maybe usefull items that cost £250 to collect?
these rainbow promos you might as well just go out and buy a new console and several games, thats how rediculous its got
then theres all these players claiming its just bad rng lol
if im a skiller and make barely any gp in game other than the odd resources, how am i supposed to collect all the tokens, and even if i was pvming itll be like 50 hours to afford one token

26-Apr-2018 00:46:17 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2018 00:50:37 by boidae

WarmongerJ
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boidae said :
WarmongerJ said :


[1]the problems that now th is like 10x what squeal was giving, raritys are played with
[2]since theres a promo literally every day whats next 20x the exp
[3]maybe usefull items that cost £250 to collect?
[4]these rainbow promos you might as well just go out and buy a new console and several [5]games, thats how rediculous its got
[6]then theres all these players claiming its just bad rng lol
[7]if im a skiller and make barely any gp in game other than the odd resources, how am i [8]supposed to collect all the tokens, and even if i was pvming itll be like 50 hours to afford one token

I numbered each line/ main argument so I can address them more efficiently.
1. I don't see a problem with this. From my point of view, the game is still well balanced around the current state of MTX. I (this is my opinion) wouldn't consider the current system to be P2W or broken (I will address this further in your next point).
2. No. Giving 20x xp would be a terrible business decision. You have to find the point, as a gaming business, where the xp is enough to entice those who have large wallets. Giving out 20x xp would dwindle profits as less money is required to hit a certain milestone. As they have it right now, it is at the point where they can make money as players are willing to buy.
3. If the item can be obtained in-game and not exclusive though TH, then who cares? Throw on a "Lucky" modifier and call it a day.
4-5. I don't understand the point you are making. I did get lucky by getting 2x rainbow scythe token drops, though :P
6. Still don't understand your point. Not trying to be rude -- Please clarify.
7-8. You don't have to collect every token -- They are rare for a reason. If you are unsatisfied with how much GP you are making, find a new method or play style. That's more of a personal problem. (Hit character limit -- Sorry I cant fully elaborate on some of these)
"The first and greatest victory is to conquer yourself; to be conquered by yourself is of all things most shameful and vile." ~Plato~

26-Apr-2018 01:09:41

WarmongerJ
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I would also like to add on to point #2. At its current state, TH is at equilibrium in a sense. The xp received from promotions isn't enough to justify calling it game-breaking or P2W. In this sense, there is an equilibrium between those who purchase and use xp promotions and those who do all of their skilling/ xp grinds in game. You can't just spend $500 and get several 99s, for instance. The popular youtube personality "AFriend" (I think thats his name) had to spend $13000 to Max. Does that sound OP to you? He spent half of what a decent car costs to Max in a video game. As of right now, I don't see any major problem with TH. Should they, like you suggested, push the barrier & come out w/ increasing OP promotions -- then there could be a problem.

Typed this in a bit of a hurry -- Sorry if I made some errors.
"The first and greatest victory is to conquer yourself; to be conquered by yourself is of all things most shameful and vile." ~Plato~

26-Apr-2018 01:15:53

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