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Miu

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*steps over the last few pages and brings this discussion back to the forefront*

Sharp-shin said :
KILLpavlosog said :
Support, I've been a major participant of TH over the years and I'd love to see it gone. However, I don't see it leaving as it generates a lot more revenue than monthly membership cost.

Edit: If they did remove it they'd have to substitute something else and that could be worse.

That's false, actually; Jagex's financial statements prove that membership revenue is much greater (almost 20 million £) than microtransaction revenue, as you can see here:



You can find the statements on the Companies House website, and even though we don't yet have the statement for 2017, you have to remember that the MTX situation was already outright terrible in 2016 and even in 2015, so you can't really argue either that "well maybe they've had a tougher time in 2017", because they already pushed out MTX very aggressively in those previous years. And don't forget that MTX revenue includes TH, Solomon's store and bonds, meaning that out of the MTX revenue you see listed there, only a part of it comes from TH.

So really, they wouldn't have to substitute TH for anything else; they could just go back to Solomon's store additions, which are fine since they're mostly cosmetic AND guaranteed, so they don't prey on gambling addictions.
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07-Feb-2018 04:45:14

Dilbert2001
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Miu said :
*steps over the last few pages and brings this discussion back to the forefront*

Sharp-shin said :
KILLpavlosog said :
Support, I've been a major participant of TH over the years and I'd love to see it gone. However, I don't see it leaving as it generates a lot more revenue than monthly membership cost.

Edit: If they did remove it they'd have to substitute something else and that could be worse.

That's false, actually; Jagex's financial statements prove that membership revenue is much greater (almost 20 million £) than microtransaction revenue, as you can see here:



You can find the statements on the Companies House website, and even though we don't yet have the statement for 2017, you have to remember that the MTX situation was already outright terrible in 2016 and even in 2015, so you can't really argue either that "well maybe they've had a tougher time in 2017", because they already pushed out MTX very aggressively in those previous years. And don't forget that MTX revenue includes TH, Solomon's store and bonds, meaning that out of the MTX revenue you see listed there, only a part of it comes from TH.

So really, they wouldn't have to substitute TH for anything else; they could just go back to Solomon's store additions, which are fine since they're mostly cosmetic AND guaranteed, so they don't prey on gambling addictions.


MTX or subscription money, they were all paid by people with good PR to Jagex. Nothing showed "bad PR" whatsoever. :)

07-Feb-2018 05:00:04

Exit Wound

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keggyyy said :
Th doesen't pay for updates anyway so why keep it?


if i had to take a guess it probably keeps jagexs parent company happy... do any of u ever stop to think jagex isnt their own entity anymore? everything they do they have to answer to someone else first...lets just say they did remove TH...whats next huh? legitimate gold selling thats NOT in the form of bonds? XP packs that can be purchased for any skills? max level characters for a couple hundred bucks? increased monthly membership? maybe jagex wont care bout the loss of income but there parent company sure as hell will n best believe theyll find 1 way or another 2 make up for it
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15-Feb-2018 17:55:30

Miu

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Exit Wound said :
keggyyy said :
Th doesen't pay for updates anyway so why keep it?


if i had to take a guess it probably keeps jagexs parent company happy... do any of u ever stop to think jagex isnt their own entity anymore? everything they do they have to answer to someone else first...lets just say they did remove TH...whats next huh? legitimate gold selling thats NOT in the form of bonds? XP packs that can be purchased for any skills? max level characters for a couple hundred bucks? increased monthly membership? maybe jagex wont care bout the loss of income but there parent company sure as hell will n best believe theyll find 1 way or another 2 make up for it


Treasure hunter pretty much is goldselling and those xp packs. Plus TH hasn't stopped jagex from increasing membership prices before. I don't get what this post is trying to say - TH is already that bad.
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17-Feb-2018 23:19:16

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The same ppl who defend th are the same ppl who say adding some of these promotional items in game would be too op. Please explain to me how th is balanced when we get promotions 24/7? If I suggested to add proteans as in game content those ppl would say that is way to op but if it's on th it's balanced. Proteans are ridiculously Common on th even if you don't buy keys. Proteans only give xp, But they will defend the nonstop 24/7 xp promotions like smouldering lamps and say it's balanced. You can already buy maxed accounts for $15000, to be honest that's pocket change irl with today's economy.


Now please tell me how adding proteans as in game content is too op compared to the 24/7 xp promotions? We get xp promotions almost every week or once every 2 weeks. I mean, proteans only give xp, just like th does so it seems balanced. :P

18-Feb-2018 10:56:02

Dilbert2001
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Of course Jagex is selling in game advantages for real money. Of course they are and they should be because they are a multimillion dollars a year business.

Since they started charging players real money through subscription >10 years ago, it has always been such a "greedy" company. But don't blame the "greedy" company only when the members have always been willing to give them membership fee to buy in game advantages over free players.

18-Feb-2018 22:12:02 - Last edited on 18-Feb-2018 22:32:48 by Dilbert2001

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