Whatusaytome
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~ Jagex will lose out by putting dev time into an event that makes their own items decrease in value. And the larger that decrease, the more potential for loss on their business end ~
It's difficult, perhaps impossible, for us as players to comment on Jagex's business end since we simply don't have access to their data but, from the observable data many updates result in various crashing (granted sometimes items skyrocket), for example the mining and smithing update resulted in a number of roller coaster rides for ores.
With respect to Treasure Hunter related stuff, consider the Rainbow Cape, etc., these were featured on Treasure Hunter a number of times, so this suggests that Jagex is capable of releasing cosmetics in a way that benefits their business interests.
So, Partyhats could be released with a similar strategy as the Rainbow Capes, etc.
While we don't have access to their business data or strategy, stuff like Rainbow Capes, etc., are observable examples that illustrate the viability of releasing Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.
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Whatusaytome
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~ Anybody who is saving their money for one suddenly needs to find something else to aim for ~
I think this is a point in favor of supporting Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.
Instead of slavishly grinding relentlessly for years for a cosmetic, many many many more people may enjoy the Partyhats and carry on with their adventures.
Whatusaytome
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~ Anybody with one is going to complain because some people have put serious time into getting it. So it's reviving the items for people who don't have the time and motivation, but it's removing an endgame goal for tons of people who don't have one.
With every update, somebody is gonna complain, a handful of Runecrafters complained that Runespan ruined the value of the Runecrafting Cape, a handful of Agiles complained that Silverhawk Feathers ruined the value of the Agility Cape, etc.
With respect to the Partyhat, things go on sale all the time all around the world. One day a product will be sold at full price, the next day it goes on sale. Those who paid full price gained enjoyment of the product much earlier than those who waited for the sale of the same product. So, it's not clear why there would be complaints about that?
Additionally, by and large, the endgame for Partyhats is flip/merch/investing them, I maintain that it's an overpowered leech activity that must be nerfed. So, Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is a cost effective solution to address this issue.
Whatusaytome
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~ I still support as long as it's not a drastic change ~
Dong U Dead
suggested a super rare "Diamond" category for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.
Perhaps you'd like to expand on a super rare category?
Or, what ideas do you have in mind when thinking about less drastic changes when releasing Partyhats on Treasure Hunter?
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4A6F6B6B75
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Whatusaytome
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What's the big deal about destroying the games most valued item for parties?
Not destroying, but restoring partyhats as cheerful holiday items that belong to
everyone
, not just a tiny fraction of the community!
Exactly!
Partyhats on Treasure Hunter will actually save the Partyhats from extinction.
That's right, save them from extinction, many are already lost, alched, wishing welled, hoarded or removed from the game because of banned accounts, etc. It's at the point that the average regular player has no connection to the Partyhats anymore.
For the average regular player the current Partyhat market is meaningless, there's no celebrations just the dull barren wasteland of flip/merch/investors swapping them back and forth leeching gps like blood from hapless fresh meat.
Anyway, I think they'll release the Partyhats again, just to prevent them from going extinct, or in the event of something comparable to a botnuke.
For The Win, Support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, it's the right thing to do!
Again, I'd like to point out the fact that partyhats are what they are today after 20 years of growth. They weren't intended for rarity as they've become, but the fact that they became rarities and maintained their place for nearly 20 years as the prized possessions to work for matters more than any free for everybody as they started suggestion
Jagex isn't going to destroy their most prized item for fun. They won't touch partyhats unless it's to make what they've become over 20 years better. They will not reduce a rarity worth more than anything else in their game to nothing. They don't care about you throwing house parties. They are a business.
If you want my opinion on Dongs suggestion, I agree with it. Although since the gems resemble what's in the game for the most part, and there's already a shiny white gem on TH, I'd think they might make it Onyx black or Hydrix or something instead of Diamond. But yeah, something more rare than the Dragonstone Purple gem 200m is what I'd expect them to do to minimally increase supply while creating a real life-changing lottery prize. That's what I support for the most part of the Partyhats on TH concept. For a limited time and with a fixed number of possible wins.
The average, regular player isn't going to get a lot of endgame items. But that doesn't mean every one should be reduced to meet their desires. In this case Partyhats are extremely over the maximum value of the game, with prices maintained by players only.. so it's not an entirely bad idea for them to be reduced, but the fact that it's 20 years later and they are still THE endgame item.. I think that still should be respected.
The only suggestion I want credit for is untradable new versions for various prices over 1b to maintain the primary purpose of current Partyhats for the wealthy above-average people to show off, and safely maintain their gains with a cosmetic placeholder that they can get back at any time. That's my Billionaires Club.
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Whatusaytome
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Again, I'd like to point out the fact that partyhats are what they are today after 20 years of growth. They weren't intended for rarity ~
Again, I'd point out the fact that the game is constantly being updated, just look at how Lumbridge has changed. In fact, every aspect of the game is undergoing a refresh, you can even recolor the Robin Hood Hat.
So, it's only a matter of time until they revisit Partyhats. There are an infinite amount of methods to release the Partyhats again and recapture the intended spirit of the holidays.
Whatusaytome
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~They don't care about you throwing house parties. They are a business.~
How did you arrive at that comment?
You do not appear to be a Jagex representative, do you have access to their business records?
Furthermore, I call your bluff,
I think Jagex loves parties.
Again, Partyhats are not an endgame item, a level 3 can wear it.
Again, Partyhats on Treaure Hunter doesn't destroy Partyhats, all the Partyhats will still be functional, all the Partyhats will still be equipable and wearable head slot.
Anyway, I'll just gently remind you again that the topic here is Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, so it's best to discuss your thread on your thread.
It's a really fun idea that incorporates lore and skills! It's like an awesome treasure hunt within a treasure hunt, it's a much more engaging and exciting style of treasure hunting! Check it out!
Jokku23
received news from The Ports that many of the recruits had lost party hats to shark attacks. This led to the development of Treasure Hunter "Partyhat Maps" which may be won on Treasure Hunter or traded to those who are inventive and aren't afraid of sharks.
For The Win, Support Partyhat Maps on Treasure Hunter, it's a multiple win!
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Create new items through Jokkus map for your house parties. You don't respect the braggers who feel safe with multiple billions put into a hat. Money that they earned for the sole purpose of buying the hat. They can brag about their earnings and it's not your right to take that away from them.
Partyhats are only being price tracked thanks to players, which I disagree with the legitimacy of. I agree they should be lowered to be able to be tracked, since it seems doing the opposite is not possible yet.
If you really cannot understand why I don't think Jagex is worried about your parties, and why they prioritize their business success more. That's on you.. You can create new versions that don't have value any time. But you ignore explanations of why it hasn't been done after 233 pages of debate. It's not safe and it's not guaranteed to make very many long term players happy. Your happiness doesn't define others'.
Stop saying it's reviving the items because they have legitimately become the highest value thing in the game. They do not need any reviving. That's just a selfish plea at this point. Although more available and more reasonable price ratio can be done if done the right way. That way more people can think it's rational, more can get them, and fewer negative consequences happen.
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Whatusaytome
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~ You don't respect the braggers ~
I respect your opinion, but your allegation appears to contradict itself.
Those who brag tend not to respect others, the essence of bragging is to disrespect those the braggart feels are inferior.
If "bragging rights" are something you want to play with, then let's be good sports about it. Among good sports "bragging rights" are lighthearted and taken with a grain of salt, there is mutual respect.
However, among poor sports, the braggart often exhibits disrespect. That is, the poor sport braggart demands respect but doesn't give respect to others. So, in this way braggarts with "bragging rights" are just poor sports that rant and rage and throw temper tantrums. Thus, your allegation appears to contradict itself.
Your allegation is also false, I respect your opinion, however, we might agree that we disagree.
With respect to Partyhats on Treasure Hunter, if "bragging rights" are a part of your position then the braggarts must be good sports and respect those who support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter.
So, how do the braggarts respect those who support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter?
Whatusaytome
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~ Your happiness doesn't define others'. ~
How did you arrive at your comment above and how does it reflect mutual respect?
While happiness in an interesting thing to discuss, I think support for Partyhats on Treasure Hunter is rooted on something more practical: game balance.
That is, you've even made the claim that flip/merch/investing Partyhats is overpowered.
And, I agree flip/merch/investing Partyhats is an overpowered leech mechanic and it must be nerfed.
So, let's support Partyhats on Treasure Hunter because it's an excellent way to address that issue.
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