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DieHunted
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My Opinion:

Note:
This is my own opinion about Fansite Staff forums and about having guidelines and rules. You don't not have to respond to this you can just read and understand. I fully encourage you to solely look at the main reason of this thread and not my "Opinion" because its mixed up and might be confusing :P .

Firstly I can openly say that Jagex does not have to take my feedback and can just turn a blind eye and not care about this thread at all. But me as a caring person and the use and vision I see for this forums I can't help but to give feedback. One thing I look at is putting my self in the shoes of a Fansite Curator, what are the things I would do if I was in that position and what I would care most about, which is building a closer relationship with all Fansites, and working and encouraging everyone to build a helpful Sub-forums for everyone to benefit from. But while also having a structure and guidelines that I would go off of if I feel the need to take away someone Privileges from these forums.

To make things clear we are here to create a Community and show our Passion for the game we play with our Fansites. We should not feel the need to be rivals or enemies or feel that we need to be in a competitive state so we can have higher traffic then our "Competitors". We as Fansite owners and Representatives, should feel open to helping each other and help guide those who are new to the RuneScape Fansite world.

One thing that Mod Seven did was give me feedback on my Fansite, which to me feedback is highly important negative or positive as well as small or large feedback. No one can grow a good running Fansite or website without feedback and suggestions from other people, that can help them in the long run.
DieHunted

09-Sep-2014 23:43:38 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2014 00:33:48 by DieHunted

DieHunted
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I will openly and admit that yes my fansite is inactive and that is because I could not be fully dedicate to it because of real life issues that will soon affect my Fansite in the long run. But yet making a new fansite has been openly hard to do, and really push for a Uniqueness out of the amazing fansites that is already here today. I admire every single RuneScape Fansite, but openly it is hard to really grow a fansite for RuneScape from rock bottom. There is already useful fansites with amazing guides that I even use and admire.

So to do something that can be better than those fansites is really hard. As well as Funding a Website became really a lot. I don't like to take from other people or ask for donations and handouts because I don't wish to put a strain on other people or make them feel that if they are not helping funding the site they are not useful. Although donations and support is useful it is not the 1st thing I strongly look at. So funding CrusadersScape and my new site ScapeCentral and promoting that site has taken a lot out of me to really get the site name sparking in peoples head. (But I will end it there, for now...)

To get back on topic, this sub-forums and the one before it is honestly useful, it makes me sad that this forums is not as active as I though it would be when I was given permission to it. The one before this Fansite Staff forums had more resource and threads to read. What I wish Jagex would do is encourage activity, and encourage everyone to help one another while also giving there input in things and giving us some information or things to use for our Fansites.
DieHunted

09-Sep-2014 23:43:47 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2014 00:34:39 by DieHunted

DieHunted
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DieHunted

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This thread is solely about making a better Sub-forum and a better relationship with one anther, but before we even get close to a Foundation for RuneScape Fansites, I think we need to start with the "Rules & Guidelines" that can be used for reasons why we lost our privileges or support.

To make things clear, Fansite owners should be the only "REPEAT" the only people given permission to remove or add people to this forums as representatives for our fansites, or those with the given permissions are able to .

This is just my opinion, why I spent time to create this, is base off of history of Fansite Support and the recent topics spouting out. At the end of the day I have a heart and a vision for this Subforums and I want to make it really useful for Fansite staff as well as Jagex Employees. This will help to keep a better relationship and show equalness to all fansites.

In all honestly we are all humans who are putting a lot of money into a Website for a game we have a big passion for. There is no other undermining reason why some would do it, if so that is your reason. But at the end of the day, a lot is put into these fansites and most of us (Can't say "we" don't want to make anyone mad.) are asking small little things from Jagex as the Game developer of RuneScape to do. If I had the opportunity to be a Fansite curator I would fight to make it happen and really work to ensure fansites are still close to Jagex.

I would like to say that I don't know what goes on behind close doors or how things work and how many hurdles you have to go though to get things done but I would spend my time doing so as I will show my passion and dedication to this like any other job. :) Thought I might add that...
DieHunted

09-Sep-2014 23:43:55 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2014 00:37:41 by DieHunted

DieHunted
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You may now post :) .

Just a few fact's I care to much about this forums and it is by far the only forums I actively look at. One of my down falls that I hate, is caring to much about others and about this specific forums. That is something I can't like turn a blind eye to or just stop, because deep down I will not be who I am or the person I am if I did just that...

~DieHunted
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09-Sep-2014 23:44:47 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2014 00:40:31 by DieHunted

Heal Deal

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I really think that with some tweaks this post should definitely be pinned.
i agree with you, some ground rules should be made. as i am still clueless about the "cook me pl0x" case. As of now i currently value more the API's we have than this forum access , i'm sure that most of you don't view this forum as a "privilege" in its current state.
Also , i think that fansites shouldn't remain competitive with each other in this forum. would be awesome to see experienced fansites help the needy . i myself would like to be more helpful here in the near future.

10-Sep-2014 01:03:59 - Last edited on 10-Sep-2014 01:04:43 by Heal Deal

Ilovearagorn

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I don't really see the point to these extensive rules/guidelines on this forum, especially as it is pretty much dead.
I still check this forum every few weeks or so, but tbh I don't really know why I still bother.

I think the only way to make this forum more active would be to actually make it useful.
The way I see it there's two ways that can happen:
1) Fansite admins help each other
2) Jmods answer questions/actually deal with requests on this forum


1) I don't really see happening.

I get that you'd like for the established guys to help out the noobies, but they don't really get anything back from doing that. I take it they have plenty to do managing their own site. They could help out of the kindness of their hearts, sure. But will they?
..And if a beginning fansite helps out another beginning fansite to make that site more awesome, that could cost their own site visitors.

I think you're better off asking friends what they think, someone who knows you might be more inclined to help out.


2) doesn't seem to be happening at the moment either.

I know there have been threads about API requests, but to my knowledge they never really led to anything. For example, we'd like to have something like a namechange API that could tell us Player X is now known as Player Y.

I've also heard other admins asking about imagery of items not in the GE and such. If they ever got them, I guess it was sent by email and not shared with the other fansites. I think these things should be shared among all fansites and not just sent to the one that requested it (if they are being sent at all).

I like how Mod Matthe is actually responding to the questions in the thread about the fansite status update, though.

A few jmods ago (Mod Lods, I think?) we were having skype calls every now and then. I think it was a nice way to hear what everyone was up to, and I'd like to see those again. And even they were having attendance problems..

10-Sep-2014 16:06:26

DieHunted
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DieHunted

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Ilovearagorn said :
I don't really see the point to these extensive rules/guidelines on this forum, especially as it is pretty much dead.
I still check this forum every few weeks or so, but tbh I don't really know why I still bother....

Yes I fully and completely agree with you Ilovearagorn, as you know and I am pretty sure anyone can honestly see this forums is really dead. But yet recently there has been a few issues spouting out and discussions going on out side the RuneScape Forums to where it makes fansites not a area of "Free discussion" or makes "Discussions" within these forums about those very issues not so free. Now honestly Jagex can do what ever they want with their site and I respect that, but yet no individual that is a Employee of Jagex can not justify any serious actions with out showing any Rules or Guidelines that someone breaks.

Again if there is no real use for these forums and anyone can just kick someone out base on what they say about them (and trust me these discussions are civil and constructive and not threatening.) and try to justify their actions, then what is the main goal for this specialist forums as well as the Fansite Support system? If one of my rep's for my fansite is highly opinionated and like to discuss about certain things in a constructive way then I see nothing wrong with that. I can not control a human being and try to make them something they are not.

Again lets get back to the topic at hand Rules and Guidelines for this forums and if you look around we honestly have none. So if I look around RuneScape website site and Jagex Terms & Conditions for their game, where does it say that someone is prohibited from discussing about anther Fansite?

I will leave it at this we are here as Fansite owners and representatives and we should have all abilities to discuss about our fansites or with other fansite owners.

I respect your points, and I wish more can come from this forums.<3

~DieHunted
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10-Sep-2014 23:28:43

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