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Aug

2023

William Witt

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Hguoh said :
Let's see. The Schism can transport those that enter it to another plane, releases large amounts of red energy, and tempts people to come closer with whispers.

The Daemonheim Rift can transport those that enter it to another plane, releases large amounts of red energy that actively warp the space around it, and tempts people to come closer with whispers.

Honestly, I believe they are one and the same. I believe the space around the Schism is only more stable and its whispers less powerful due the Terragardians actively draining and directing its power for their own use (to power the entire planet), while the Daemonheim Rift's energy just seeps into the surrounding area.

Edit: Also, massive black hole in the fabric of space-time that appears to connect to all other planes? What sort of beings do we know about that have visited each and every plane and can be described as incredibly massive?

The Elder Gods, of course.

Precisely what I've speculated. I've also (related) suggested that on Teragard they speak the Infernal tongue, which if true would certainly imply they (or at least the magisters who govern their society) are being influenced by the Schism... Or are in contact with demonic forces via it. As a fellow lorehound I know (Captain Lime?) put it when I told him my theory - "So you're saying Teragard is siphoning off of a hellgate?"

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06-Jun-2016 22:23:59 - Last edited on 06-Jun-2016 22:24:32 by William Witt

Hguoh

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William Witt said :
Hguoh said :
Let's see. The Schism can transport those that enter it to another plane, releases large amounts of red energy, and tempts people to come closer with whispers.

The Daemonheim Rift can transport those that enter it to another plane, releases large amounts of red energy that actively warp the space around it, and tempts people to come closer with whispers.

Honestly, I believe they are one and the same. I believe the space around the Schism is only more stable and its whispers less powerful due the Terragardians actively draining and directing its power for their own use (to power the entire planet), while the Daemonheim Rift's energy just seeps into the surrounding area.

Edit: Also, massive black hole in the fabric of space-time that appears to connect to all other planes? What sort of beings do we know about that have visited each and every plane and can be described as incredibly massive?

The Elder Gods, of course.

Precisely what I've speculated. I've also (related) suggested that on Teragard they speak the Infernal tongue, which if true would certainly imply they (or at least the magisters who govern their society) are being influenced by the Schism... Or are in contact with demonic forces via it. As a fellow lorehound I know (Captain Lime?) put it when I told him my theory - "So you're saying Teragard is siphoning off of a hellgate?"

So Teragard could be set up to be Mars in the game 'Doom' pre-invasion from Hell? Sweet!

06-Jun-2016 22:37:31

Rondstat

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Anybody got anything new?

man, remember when the forums were a thing?

12-Sep-2016 06:44:34

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Lord Pyro I

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Tlamovec said :
Can it be a meat grinder that turns humans into a sacred clay to build things for elder gods?

I'd suspect that if this was case entering it would be suicidal in 100% of cases. As far as we know the Schism acts like the Grim Reaper, harvesting souls not actively trying to remove the population of anima wasting accidents (all mortals) as the Elder Gods would want.

I'd say this is likely part of the portal network that includes the Deamonheim rift at a guess due to the similarities. Due to the sheer number of exit points it's possible the rift also links with the abyss.

I have alittle theory that maybe the Terragard Reaper is actually trapped inside the Rift in some way instead of actually being the rift and that the rift itself was created the Elder Gods using their sword to get around the universe. "The greatest endeavors are achieved because of their selfless intent"

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13-Sep-2016 20:55:03

Rondstat

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Updated the top post with concept art of the Schism from Runefest.

Interesting reveals from Runefest

-The Schism is a hole in reality, linking Teragard to the abyss

-The Schism's power is generated by dimensional instability

-Saradomin, recently elevated to godhood, used the Schism to leave his home of Teragard and travel to New Domina

-The Magisters (currently 7, originally 12) are descendants of the high priests of Saradomin, entrusted with Teragardian society on his departure

-Teragard is a theocracy, ostensibly Saradominist, but in fact subjugated by a religion crafted by the Magisters to maintain their own power

-The Schism's powers are used for magics more focused around alchemy and transmogrification, including the harvesting of souls and the transformation of humans into more elemental forms (eg Fire Warrior of Lesarkus)

Interesting things to note - with the more explicit description of its function, it seems the Schism and the Rift are the same sort of phenomenon, if not directly linked. Also, a servant of a Teragardian Magister was one of the guardians of the Temple of Ikov. I can't even begin to speculate what this means, but I'll be interested to see this explored.

Also, as many of us suspected, the first humans brought to Gielinor by Guthix were NOT from Teragard, but from a planet in the human diaspora.

24-Sep-2016 23:36:45

Vardan

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Rondstat said :
Updated the top post with concept art of the Schism from Runefest.

Interesting reveals from Runefest

-The Schism is a hole in reality, linking Teragard to the abyss

-The Schism's power is generated by dimensional instability

-Saradomin, recently elevated to godhood, used the Schism to leave his home of Teragard and travel to New Domina

-The Magisters (currently 7, originally 12) are descendants of the high priests of Saradomin, entrusted with Teragardian society on his departure

-Teragard is a theocracy, ostensibly Saradominist, but in fact subjugated by a religion crafted by the Magisters to maintain their own power

-The Schism's powers are used for magics more focused around alchemy and transmogrification, including the harvesting of souls and the transformation of humans into more elemental forms (eg Fire Warrior of Lesarkus)

Interesting things to note - with the more explicit description of its function, it seems the Schism and the Rift are the same sort of phenomenon, if not directly linked. Also, a servant of a Teragardian Magister was one of the guardians of the Temple of Ikov. I can't even begin to speculate what this means, but I'll be interested to see this explored.

Also, as many of us suspected, the first humans brought to Gielinor by Guthix were NOT from Teragard, but from a planet in the human diaspora.
The more they talk about Teragard the more I want to go there. The place sounds like Terra from 40k.

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25-Sep-2016 05:21:27

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2019

Aig123

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'It would seem it is exceptionally difficult for anyone but a god to open a portal between worlds.' - Bilrach in Dishonour among Thieves.

Miraculously, Bilrach found himself on Freneskae, the other side of the universe. Where as Moia was the one to locate Zamorak on a 'fiery realm'. They made it back safe and sound despite tumbling through the dimensions.

Now if Mahjarrat like Bilrach could barely influence the Rifts destination, yet Saradomin used the Schism to seek higher realms (New Domina/Renmark/Gielinor/Naragun). This tells us that travelling via Rift/Schism (if they are the same phenomena) requires monumental power to properly direct at the risk of being stranded on a discarded world floating in the Abyss.

We have yet to discover the entity within the Rift/Schism. The one which whispers insanity into victims, warps their bodies and snaps their souls. How individuals like Robert and Oreb made it through unaffected, maybe their souls were too strong to be taken.

One thought that crossed my mind was that there is a fourth entry point to our knowledge.
We have the Schism at Teragards catherdral, the Rift beneath Daemonheim on floor 61, and the abyssal portal in the Slayer Tower. I reckon the 'Shadow' beneath the Barrows is a similar phenomenon and could be a fourth tear between the dimensions. Cutting between Shadow and Material Realms, it could widen and breach the Abyss or Void.

27-Sep-2016 20:39:38

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2022

Kemtros

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The role of the Magisters reminds me of the Tevinter Imperium's Magisterium from Dragon Age. Not just the title of "Magister", but that there are specifically seven, and are related to high priests.

I'm glad that they confirmed that the Schism is not an Elder Artefact. I was kind of hoping that it would be, but this at least frees up a spot in the list.

28-Sep-2016 15:39:08

Rondstat

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Aig123 said :
'It would seem it is exceptionally difficult for anyone but a god to open a portal between worlds.' - Bilrach in Dishonour among Thieves.

Miraculously, Bilrach found himself on Freneskae, the other side of the universe. Where as Moia was the one to locate Zamorak on a 'fiery realm'. They made it back safe and sound despite tumbling through the dimensions.

Now if Mahjarrat like Bilrach could barely influence the Rifts destination, yet Saradomin used the Schism to seek higher realms (New Domina/Renmark/Gielinor/Naragun). This tells us that travelling via Rift/Schism (if they are the same phenomena) requires monumental power to properly direct at the risk of being stranded on a discarded world floating in the Abyss.

Here's a stupid idea~

What if the Schism is a god?

Loarnab was turned into a portal. And, on a lesser scale, we know of bodies turned into direct passageways into the Abyss (Aesa Fellsdottir). Meanwhile, Saradomin's divine origins are still shrouded in mystery, and every account of ascension we know involves some direct transfusion of godly power. Could he have somehow stolen some primal deity's power and then shackled his remains to the cathedral?

Yeah, it doesn't make sense once you start picking it apart. New details make it clear the Rift and Schism are the same sort of phenomenon (but I don't think every hole into the Abyss falls into this category - sorry, Aig). Would it make sense for some primal god to have been imprisoned deep in the earth in the 1st Age or before?

One observation - we've never had an explanation as to why Robert took up his crusade against the Kin. The Kin were clearly attracted to the Rift, and have some measure of control over it. Could there have been some sort of Kin presence on Teragard? Since we now know the Kin were the first False Users - could there have been more False Users, destroyed and forgotten, on the path to Gielinor?

03-Oct-2016 15:02:48

Ancient Drew

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It's not Loarnab. Zaros didn't reach Gielinor until the Second Age, and Saradomin became a god way before Guthix found it and started the First Age.

Although it does seem that the Schism leads to the Abyss. But it is possible that the Schism, Rift and possibly the Underwater City are all places that go through the Abyss, although in different areas to the one where we go to runecraft. The Abyss is practically a bin where the Elder Gods throw worlds they've revised, and it can be accessed anywhere. Although the Schism and the Rift are probably some of the main entrances. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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03-Oct-2016 17:09:21

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