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5p1ders

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Well first of all. This entity called the Siphon by its mortal name. Which means that this entity Sliske is working with is probably a mortal that has a lot of knowledge on how the Siphon works. Besides, this entity is impatient and not confident in Sliske's plan. The entity isn't Zaros... Zaros is known to be calculative and patient. The question we have to ask is who knows a lot about the way the Siphon works.

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30-May-2016 18:37:04 - Last edited on 30-May-2016 20:41:56 by 5p1ders

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Another thing is, Zaros has vehemently claimed that he doesn't desire war or destruction. He asked his followers to wake Guthix and talk to him, so there's no reason to order Sliske to kill him. And then he tells Azzanadra to prepare for waking the Elders, which would be achieved by placing themselves in the Elder Halls and basically ringing bells in their ears. At the end of FOT*, Zaros finally says to us, "Pax Tecum", which means peace be with you. This shows that he wouldn't have helped Sliske with whatever he's doing, nor would he have excommunicated him if he was.

Since the "master" called it the staff instead of the Siphon, as Zaros would have, he/she might be either the Sixth, Xau-Tak, Kara-Meir (unlikely I know but knowing her...) or a god who had just recently ascended themselves and used the Siphon in the past. It could be the Queen of Ashes for all we know, but we become aware that Sliske was looking into Xau-Tak in the past, and became obsessed with the player. The only beings that have called it the Siphon are Zaros, Seren, the Elder Gods, and probably any beings manifested by the Anima Mundi. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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30-May-2016 18:59:28

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Who ever it is wants the gods all in one place and if I am not reading too much into things, it'll be something they won't survive. Probably. Plus I don't think they care about the Stone of Jas.

I'm more curious what our plan was when we started fiddling with the Shadow Focus. Was it the Staff of Arma that made us feel funky, or the Shadow Focus?


Sliske: Thank you for the tip-off about this delightful thing by the way, I would never have found it on my own.

Sliske: It never occurred to me that the staff could be used that way.

[Mysterious voice]: The staff is quite useful.

Sliske: Yes and the look on that dragonkin's face was hilarious! Even better now that I have the stone.

Sliske: To think, they just cast this thing away, hoping no one would find it. They must have known the Stone wouldn't be hidden forever.

Sliske: Something like this...it wants to be found. It needs a user, false or not.

[Mysterious voice]: Is there a point to this?

Sliske: Sorry, getting all poetic there for a moment, totally out of character I know.

[Mysterious voice]: Enough! This will bring them?

Sliske: Oh yes, very much so. The siren song of the Stone will bring all of the gods together.

Sliske: It will be a gathering like no other, a monumental occasion that everyone will yearn to observe.

[Mysterious voice]: This bluster is pointless, simply make it happen.

Sliske: Yes, of course.

Sliske: I live to serve.


I don't think conversation fits the vast majority of the dragonkin. Or Kara-Meir. They don't understand beauty, it's an alien concept. So not a human or a lot of other things. It's a limited list. Though not beyond the talker being a complete lunatic. They know about the Staff, so it's possibly one of the elders avatar or minions making a move. Though I would not discount something from the last revision crawling out of the abyss.

Though I suppose there is a very outside chance of it being one of the more scientifically minded Dragonkin with the Mirror The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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30-May-2016 19:05:55

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Loristic said :
I have collected my thoughts again and thought more that dialogue between Sliske and his possible master. S/he might or might not be his master, but someone asking Sliske for a (small) favour. As we know, Sliske likes to do favours, note the cases of Barrows Brothers, Gregorovic and Linza. Sliske does his/her favour since it leads to a great disaster: the gathering of gods along with the Stone of Jas. Imagine what would happen there; the Necrosy*te dragonkin come there and annihilate everyone when they detect someone using falsely the stone, the Stone of Jas shatters and plausibly causing massive amounts of divine energy unleashing everywhere, or the gods begin violently fighting for the stone.

- Kerapac: Destroying the Stone of Jas to break the curse from his race. If it doesn't happen, at least there is a high percentage that the false users kill each other in the event, easing the curse.
Would a free-for-all fight between the gods right next to the stone be enough to break it? NO
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30-May-2016 19:13:13

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ZAmorakZaros said :
Loristic said :
I have collected my thoughts again and thought more that dialogue between Sliske and his possible master. S/he might or might not be his master, but someone asking Sliske for a (small) favour. As we know, Sliske likes to do favours, note the cases of Barrows Brothers, Gregorovic and Linza. Sliske does his/her favour since it leads to a great disaster: the gathering of gods along with the Stone of Jas. Imagine what would happen there; the Necrosy*te dragonkin come there and annihilate everyone when they detect someone using falsely the stone, the Stone of Jas shatters and plausibly causing massive amounts of divine energy unleashing everywhere, or the gods begin violently fighting for the stone.

- Kerapac: Destroying the Stone of Jas to break the curse from his race. If it doesn't happen, at least there is a high percentage that the false users kill each other in the event, easing the curse.
Would a free-for-all fight between the gods right next to the stone be enough to break it?

They said on livestream that endgame probably isn't going to end in an all out fight.

I also doubt fighting next to it will do anything to it, either physical damage would have to be done to it like nomad did, or drained and possibly overused to the point of cracking like Zamorak seemed to of almost accomplished.
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30-May-2016 19:43:07

ZAmorakZaros
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Zulkir said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
Loristic said :
I have collected my thoughts again and thought more that dialogue between Sliske and his possible master. S/he might or might not be his master, but someone asking Sliske for a (small) favour. As we know, Sliske likes to do favours, note the cases of Barrows Brothers, Gregorovic and Linza. Sliske does his/her favour since it leads to a great disaster: the gathering of gods along with the Stone of Jas. Imagine what would happen there; the Necrosy*te dragonkin come there and annihilate everyone when they detect someone using falsely the stone, the Stone of Jas shatters and plausibly causing massive amounts of divine energy unleashing everywhere, or the gods begin violently fighting for the stone.

- Kerapac: Destroying the Stone of Jas to break the curse from his race. If it doesn't happen, at least there is a high percentage that the false users kill each other in the event, easing the curse.
Would a free-for-all fight between the gods right next to the stone be enough to break it?

They said on livestream that endgame probably isn't going to end in an all out fight.

I also doubt fighting next to it will do anything to it, either physical damage would have to be done to it like nomad did, or drained and possibly overused to the point of cracking like Zamorak seemed to of almost accomplished. What if all gods shot beams like in bol? and from all sides and the place where the beams met was right above the stone? NO
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30-May-2016 20:36:03

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Solanumtinkr said :
I don't think conversation fits the vast majority of the dragonkin. Or Kara-Meir. They don't understand beauty, it's an alien concept. So not a human or a lot of other things. It's a limited list. Though not beyond the talker being a complete lunatic. They know about the Staff, so it's possibly one of the elders avatar or minions making a move. Though I would not discount something from the last revision crawling out of the abyss.

Though I suppose there is a very outside chance of it being one of the more scientifically minded Dragonkin with the Mirror

Well, we know that the dragonkin have built statues, architectural buildings, murals and so on. In my opinion they wouldn't have made statues or any architectural details in their fortresses if they had considered beauty as an alien concept. I still claim that the dragonkin can recognize something as beautiful, but since they are in great pain, they think it is meaningless. The mysterious voice states that "beauty is meaningless".

The mysterious voice is nihilistic because s/he considers beauty as meaningless and the conversations as irrelevant, and impatient, because s/he wants Sliske to arrange the event already. I agree that if it were a Dragonkin, it would be more likely a Dactyl than a Necrosy*te. The curse, which makes the dragonkin be in pain and suffer, can be the reason behind the voice's opinions. If you had a way to get rid of constant, terrible pain, would you want it as fast as possible rather than waiting for thousands of years more? The Dactyl have tried to find a cure for thousands of years with self-discipline, without any results, so asking Sliske for a favour can be attractive; Sliske maybe has a way to get the cure, just like he had for Gregorovic. But with the dragonkin, Sliske gets more destruction along with it. Loristic, the Seeker of Lore, the Archivist of Knowledge, the World Guardian, the Diplomat of Cabbages, and the Regent of Miscellania. May anima mundi be with you and hail Guthix!

30-May-2016 20:41:10

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ZAmorakZaros said :
Zulkir said :
ZAmorakZaros said :

Would a free-for-all fight between the gods right next to the stone be enough to break it?

They said on livestream that endgame probably isn't going to end in an all out fight.

I also doubt fighting next to it will do anything to it, either physical damage would have to be done to it like nomad did, or drained and possibly overused to the point of cracking like Zamorak seemed to of almost accomplished. What if all gods shot beams like in bol? and from all sides and the place where the beams met was right above the stone?

What if Sliske, being a trickster, gives gods pieces of the Stone of Jas until every piece of it is shared among the gods, and they began to fight over them? Nomad, depending on the World Guardian, was able to get a piece from the stone during Dishonour Among Thieves. The artwork for Sliske's Endgame supports this slightly, since almost every piece from the stone bears a face of a divine being, and Sliske has like "open hands".

That just came into my mind since it wouldn't plausibly mean that the gods would fight for the pieces during the quest, but after the quest. Loristic, the Seeker of Lore, the Archivist of Knowledge, the World Guardian, the Diplomat of Cabbages, and the Regent of Miscellania. May anima mundi be with you and hail Guthix!

30-May-2016 20:46:50

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