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Rensler
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The truth is the only reasons the Godless defeated Tuska is 1. it was the default faction for people who didn't care about siding or the lore, 2. they had Vorago as the rep, 3. a lot of people just bandwagoned when the meter was halfway yellow. I still believe this event was intended to be in favor of the Godless to give them a slight boost in popularity or even relevance but... Supporter of
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29-Jan-2018 20:49:31

CD_Paladin_C

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Gezz people are defending the godless. Think I need to give everyone a history lesson of WE3, specifically about 2 factions.

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The four factions of Armadyl, the Godless, Saradomin, and Zamorak assembled, ready to put Tuska down. The factions had to gather Anima from around the islands orbiting Tuska, and use to hurt the boar goddess. There were 30 days in the event, 16 wins from the 4 factions were required to beat Tuska with the highest win % being the faction that killed Tuska, while if Tuska won 16 times she would cause great damage to Gielinor (Soran had implied that Zaros would've stepped in and stopped her, since he had returned soon after Bandos's death). This never happened because Jagex introduced Deus Ex Machina crystals that made sure that Tuska never won again. The one time she did win after that was due to a bug.

The Saradominist faction last placed 29 out of the 30 days. The #StopSaradomin hashtag had gained too much popularity with the playerbase tired of Saradomin's genocide and temper tantrums. Saradomin himself, who was so very sorry for what he did to the Naragi and how he wanted to protect them from Tuska, was no where to be found to protect Gielinor. With the Godless faction winning 20 times due to the playerbase going "omg vorago!", Vorago, an ancient being created by Gielinor's Anima Mundi to protect the world, stepped in and killed Tuska.

Tuska fell to Gielinor alive but brain-dead at this point. Vorago was given a god kill in Sliske's competition instead of the Godless because even Jagex knew that players didn't want to side with the 2nd worst faction in the game, and they sided with Vorago cause "omg vorago!"

And for the first time ever, on day 31 of World Event 3, the entire Saradominist faction was completely and utterly defeated. "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
-The Lore Community to our Saradominist Friends, Said During World Event 2, Proven During World Event 3.
#StopSaradomin

29-Jan-2018 22:42:22 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2018 22:42:57 by CD_Paladin_C

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Rensler said :
The truth is the only reasons the Godless defeated Tuska is 1. it was the default faction for people who didn't care about siding or the lore, 2. they had Vorago as the rep, 3. a lot of people just bandwagoned when the meter was halfway yellow. I still believe this event was intended to be in favor of the Godless to give them a slight boost in popularity or even relevance but...

First, I cared about lore, yet sided with the Godless in the event. I wasn't exactly fond of the idea of giving any of the involved gods a notable power boost (don't trust Saradomin and Zamorak with the power, and Armadyl did not need affirmation that he has to kill anybody he considers his enemy).

Second, people not caring about the lore and owing no allegiance to a particular god because of this falls fairly well in line with the Garlandia-style Godless (When a god calls, we do not have to answer.)

Third, they didn't have Vorago as a rep anymore than any other faction had their god as a rep. The representative for the Godless was Scopulus (Vorago-adjacent, sure, but not Vorago).

Fourth, so what if people bandwagoned Godless when the meter turned halfway in their favor. That still presents the Godless of getting the plurality of damage prior to those who jumped for popularity's sake.

29-Jan-2018 23:12:48

Quael
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Rensler said :


If you mean it was just something for people to jump in because they didn't care about the lore of the other 3 factions, then that proves they would prefer to favor the Godless instead of the gods when it comes to it. That proves that if it was ever a event where the Godless vs other faction, and not included Zaros, Bandos, Seren, and Sliske. 25-50% of those members will go Godless because "screw the other gods."

The reason the Godless had won wasn't because of the bandwagon, 1. It was because those who didn't see their faction, and preferred not seeing and of the other gods win joined the Godless. I am not saying ALL of them, but a good number of them that number did counted to help the Godless win. 2. Yes, they had Vorago as a representative of the Faction. So? While I will admit that did help us gain more supporters, that still means a lot of people (not everyone) wanted to see the Godless win instead of the other gods. 3. Your point being? Saradomin vs Zamorak, while it was a close tie in the end, I, and several others I know jumped the bandwagon when we saw the blue meter get higher. Same thing goes for Armadyl vs Bandos. So that bandwagon excuse doesn't help when past events was the same.

Over all, people who aligned with the Godless who did care about the lore, knew what would happen if they won, Vorago would go have killed Tuska, and went to endgame.
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29-Jan-2018 23:48:54 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2018 23:50:15 by Quael

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CD_Paladin_C said :
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While a good number of people did join because of Vorago, another good number of people joined because their respective faction wasn't there, and they didn't want the other gods to win. Again like I said, people knew what would have happened if Vorago won, he kills a god and joins in Sliske's contest. And they remained.

Tuska isn't alive, it was confirmed she is dead, the anima mundi she had absorbed from other planet is what is keeping her from turning into stone, but will happen eventually as Gielinor is slowly absorbing Tuska's anima mundi. Which would then either turn her into stone, or just another landscape.

2nd worst faction, how in lore? blame Jagex, in over all in who they are? that's people's opinion? If you saw 2016 (Or was it 2015) faction percentage in player, the Godless did beat Bandos, Sliske, Saradomin and seren in having more players than these four factions, making them the 4th biggest faction. Of course unless you mean before their growth. Then yeah, they weren't that big as today due to no interaction with them. Plus, it was obvious to a lot of people that Vorago would have gained a score, because he was the one that killed a god, the the faction it self. It would be a bit stupid if Sliske included Vorago who dealt the killing blow, and an entire faction into the score. That would mean he should allow the army of the gods with a score as well, ya know?

Again, while a good number did go "Omg Vorago" they did join because not only of Vorago, because of what I stated before. A lot of people knew Vorago would have killed Tuska, and gained a point. So your history lesson is an opinion, that if you think about it if the Godless was made a 3rd faction to the two world event, with the option to sabotage the two factions, a lot of people would have joined them. I am not saying they would win, but if the did, the same thing that people belittle in WE3, would have happened in WE 1 & 2
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30-Jan-2018 00:05:32

Rensler
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I hate the fact that the
Godless
got nothing out of WE3, no follow up anything, they are "claiming" to have killed
Tuska
as the faction did win 20 days, but allegiance during Tuska Comes didn't even matter when it came to SE.

Vorago was just there cause he is the one that killed her. There's no dialogue on the events whatsoever really. Saradomin could have had an encounter with him in the maze or mention something about the Naragi Wars where she was involved, being that Tuska was an ancient being who's defeat, I believe,should matter greatly.

It's like Vorago was just thrown in there because they have to acknowledge WE3 happened even though it was a disaster, it could have been followed up by a surprise appearance from Kara Meir or the Godless leader, giving some nod to them but not even that was present.


On a side note: Where was Sakirth? Technically he's the one that used the elder mirror on
V
, and the one Dragonkin I want to personally end. Supporter of
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30-Jan-2018 09:31:31 - Last edited on 30-Jan-2018 09:34:34 by Rensler

Quael
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Quael

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Rensler said :

I agree, I also hate that after WE3, they were just forgotten again. But The Godless gained an area that they need to defend from airuts invaders, but even that place was forgotten unless you do the quest that leads to Mazcab. SE included them as Sliske announced Vorago, if we align with them and Vorago, and if we pick to give them the Stone of Jas if we won the race. They get a nudge mention if it's quests that has to do with the gods, but most of them is if we are aligned with them.

I agree, they should have gone and at least added a surprise cameo, like Biehn, the leader of the Godless appearing at least. But that would make little sense, as lore perspective, no one knows where Sliske's Endgame was at, only those who were invited, and the group of followers.

I had heard people complain that Vorago should have gotten some Godless members to go with him, but he doesn't need it. Or believed he didn't, as he is a very powerful being, capable of killing a god. Over all, they need to dedicate time on the Godless, give them a equal screen time every time there is a God-related quest.
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30-Jan-2018 20:44:07

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I want war, I want battle.

If another world event brings this in, in the name of Bandos I support this thread with all that I have in me.
"I see a world where there is no need to flatter and deceive: where power is there to be taken by those with the strength to do so." - Bandos

27-Feb-2018 01:05:29

Rensler
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I'm hoping for another WE soon, I really like the Sea Monsters idea and the Daemonheim idea.

I'm with you though I would like another battle with PVP similar to WE2. Supporter of
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28-Feb-2018 10:12:54

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