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Nolhiir
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Chaos Lupus said :
The werewolf quest will be in the upcoming poll, be sure to vote for it if you're interested!
Glad you found an interesting question. It'd be cool to see more infighting happening around Gielinor. Newest Disciple of Xau-Tak

11-Aug-2015 22:33:48

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Werewolves in The Lord of Vamp**ium BTS! They'll probably just be generic, unnamed characters, but at least they aren't being ignored. Unfortunately, Rowl*y mentioned pushing werewolves to the side.

It'll be interesting to see why they're in their wolf forms, hopefully a reason is actually provided. It could just be combat-related.
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12-Sep-2015 14:53:27

Lord Drakan
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Roland Lyons said :
I wonder if we'll see Gar'rth in the vampyre finale.
Doubt it. His character necessitates a starring role in a quest, but in this series he isn't very relevant so he'd be a cameo combatant at the Salve at most. That'd work for Kara, but not a hitherto unintroduced character such as Gar'rth. Hoping for a werewolf quest spinoff featuring him though; preferably Fifth Age and taking place prior to TLoV so the vampyres are still in full power. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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08-Oct-2015 07:09:36

Half Centaur
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Lord Drakan said :
Roland Lyons said :
I wonder if we'll see Gar'rth in the vampyre finale.
Doubt it. His character necessitates a starring role in a quest, but in this series he isn't very relevant so he'd be a cameo combatant at the Salve at most. That'd work for Kara, but not a hitherto unintroduced character such as Gar'rth. Hoping for a werewolf quest spinoff featuring him though; preferably Fifth Age and taking place prior to TLoV so the vampyres are still in full power.

I feel like for Gar'rth it'd be a really bad time for him to just show up in the quest series especially in Misthalin- they'd just assume he was an escaped werewolf and murder him. It seems the vyres are bringing werewolves with them to this fight so it'd make sense as well. "We call it being a hero"
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08-Oct-2015 15:09:17

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In a recent stream on twitch Mod Osborne said that it was Jerrod fighting with Roald in the concept art for River of Blood. Obviously that wouldn't make sense, so I'm assuming that he just misspoke. Jerrod wasn't directly involved in the last battle of the Salve so the artwork isn't a flashback to that, the quest will take place in 169 of the Fifth Age while Jerrod is still being held captive by Handelmort.

As for the concept art itself, I'm hopeful that it indicates more werewolf involvement in the finale, although that may just be as nameless foot soldiers. Still, it's an important event so we'll hopefully get some insight into their perspective.

Thoughts?
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26-Dec-2015 16:51:38

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Lord Drakan said :
Roland Lyons said :
I wonder if we'll see Gar'rth in the vampyre finale.
Doubt it. His character necessitates a starring role in a quest, but in this series he isn't very relevant so he'd be a cameo combatant at the Salve at most. That'd work for Kara, but not a hitherto unintroduced character such as Gar'rth. Hoping for a werewolf quest spinoff featuring him though; preferably Fifth Age and taking place prior to TLoV so the vampyres are still in full power.

I wouldn't mind Gar'rth being introduced in a small yet important role in the finale so long as he plays a larger role once/if we get a werewolf spinoff quest. It made sense for him not to be involved up until this point as the bulk of things were taking place within Morytania, where Gar'rth obviously doesn't want to be. I can see him getting involved now that Morytanians are threatening to spill into Misthalin and other lands west of the Salve. He and his companions fought to keep Tenebra from conquering Misthalin once (although they were kind of forced into it), it wouldn't make much sense for him to just ignore Vanescula attempting to do the same thing, especially if Kara or any of his other friends get involved. I could see Roald potentially calling him back from exile to use him as an informant. After all, he does know hidden routes around Canifis that even we don't know, which could be useful. I agree that it's unlikely for him to be included, though.
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26-Dec-2015 17:08:12 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2015 17:08:51 by Chaos Lupus

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So I've seen a lot of people mentioning that the concept art for the final vampyre quest is a lorefail since the werewolf is in vampyre form and the wolfbane dagger prevents them from changing.


But is it really a lore fail? Last I checked, it only prevents them from changing, if they are already changed the wolfbane dagger doesn't revert them back and why would any werewolf go into a war in their human form, that would be dumb. So unless the books say something about the dagger force reverting them, and assuming the werewolves don't wait until they are in combat before changing then I don't see where the lore fail is.

12-Jan-2016 17:50:28

Chaos Lupus

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Cthris said :
So I've seen a lot of people mentioning that the concept art for the final vampyre quest is a lorefail since the werewolf is in vampyre form and the wolfbane dagger prevents them from changing.


But is it really a lore fail? Last I checked, it only prevents them from changing, if they are already changed the wolfbane dagger doesn't revert them back and why would any werewolf go into a war in their human form, that would be dumb. So unless the books say something about the dagger force reverting them, and assuming the werewolves don't wait until they are in combat before changing then I don't see where the lore fail is.

It's not really a lorefail as it's just concept art, it's not canon, just meant to get people excited about the quest while pitching the main idea.

Mechanically, werewolves are only affected by wolfbane daggers if they're attacked before they're in their wolf form. Nothing in-game other than combat mechanics, to my knowledge, mentions or suggests this to be the case though. In the novels it's made clear that it affects them no matter which form they're in and forces them to change back if they're already in their wolf form. It isn't currently contradicted by the game, and there isn't really a purpose in making it, so they'll hopefully make a point of it in the quest.
The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

12-Jan-2016 20:47:46

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