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BOL was a bit too long, but then again the event got stale after a while. BATB was a fantastic event and I would like to see that style done again, with slight adjustments. I wouldn't mind if it ran longer ;)

Tuska was just horrible, and CFB was fun for a while but got boring. -Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

13-Mar-2017 20:55:08

Giras
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Rifleavenger said :
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Most of that was just whining about how jagex doesn't make the game the way you want it.
As for the Kinshra getting healed more because they needed it... you DO understand that healable NPCs appeared regardless of whether or not NPCs were actually damaged right? The community is finally wise to Saradomin's tendencies, Tuska comes demonstrated that with Saradomin in last place for basically the whole event.
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14-Mar-2017 16:20:13

Rifleavenger
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Giras said :

Most of that was just whining about how jagex doesn't make the game the way you want it.
As for the Kinshra getting healed more because they needed it...

The community is finally wise to Saradomin's tendencies, Tuska comes demonstrated that with Saradomin in last place for basically the whole event.

On the contrary, I'm quite pleased. Jagex hasn't let mob mentality determine the course of the story for some time. I applaud them for it; Jagex are not great writers, but leaving the story to popularity contest is never a good idea. How would you feel if Zamorak got killed at the end of the Battle of Lumbridge, instead of getting a quest to undo his losses later? And mostly because, thanks to years of slanted perspectives, he was less popular? Given all he's contributed to the story, wouldn't that have been a damn waste just to say "look, the players determine the story!" The same could have been true for Bandos, but being the most unpopular god he never stood a chance.

If Tuska's percentages are to be taken as gospel, expect all the non-godless sides who participated to lose then. The Godless beat every other (non-Tuska) faction combined on some days; there were Zarosians and Serenists in there no doubt, but that hardly matters to the rest.

Many characters in-game have the opinion that Saradomin is well meaning, if arrogant and ill suited for the very world he wants to create. Seren says he could be redeemed, Zaros says he could be useful, etc. No, Saradomin is not the generic "god of good" he was way back when. He is also not the objective, satanic evil of this story and anyone who argues for such is as deluded as Toby or Padomenes (though in the opposite direction). Nor does everyone who opposes him have the sortsighted goal of killing him. Hopefully the choice is left up to each of us to make on our own, rather than being thrown back to the court of public opinion.

15-Mar-2017 02:02:02 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2017 02:15:47 by Rifleavenger

Bloodcount

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Fun fact: and I am just one player, but....

During Tuska comes, I realized that there was no faction that really helped me. While the addition of Vorago did seem interesting, the Godless just never really felt right to me.

Saradomin and Zamorak were both the default setting, and Armadyll was what was left over. Therefore, I joined Armadyll. It was not from me hating either Zam-bone or Sara-doh!-man, had they been the only two options, as was the case in BoL, then I would have honestly picked which one I liked more at the time. And with those two, that's a definite roller coaster ride for me; One minute Pringles guy will do something that impresses me while Papa Smurf just makes me shake my head; the next minute, the complete opposite is true.

Now had they thrown in Zaros, Seren (your elves' lives are at risk woman!), the desert gods, Sliske (who wanted the world to burn, but not be obliterated), then we would see the popularity of the possible gods at the time. A lot of Sliskeans may have joined the godless, many Zarosians may have seen the Godless as the lesser of two evils, and Serenists are always an enigma. Heck, had there been a Guthixian (deceased) faction, the Godless ranks would have decreased.

Thoughts?

15-Mar-2017 18:58:33

Rifleavenger
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Bloodcount said :
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I wholeheartedly agree that a vote for a certain faction is not a vote for the death of the others (unless that is the explicit stated result of the event as with BatB).

I find points of agreement with Saradomin, Zaros, Armadyl, Seren, and V. I disagree with Guthix and the Godless, but I don't wish them ill. I greatly dislike Zamorak, but I don't want him die. The only god I've met that I wanted to perish already has, and even then I don't like how it was done. I'm sure others like more than one god too.

I also agree that putting in a spoiler faction like the Godless when some very popular factions (ex. Zaros) don't have a stake in the game also makes it hard to judge why people actually sided the way they did.

15-Mar-2017 22:25:33

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As for events such as Invasion of Falador,

I didn't really consider which side I supported Lore-wise. I felt that I wanted the constitution xp, I went to whichever camp was closest in proximity to me. I didn't even finish the event.

The fact of the matter is that there was some item hidden in the park, which they had never thought to search for, and if the Black Knights had won, they wouldn't have held Falador. They would've taken the sword, and retreated going "Fufufufu..." I feel like Saradomin would've popped up and pushed them back had they won the event. Too much change and content would've been affected had they gotten to keep the city, so it was never going to happen.

SO, I had no lore-interest in the event. If they had introduced a new town or island, and the event was really going to determine who owned it from that point on, I would've given a darn about which side got the most points.

22-Mar-2017 20:45:54

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Rough times...though they were a necessary evil. It was enough to spark a new lore community and eventually we managed to drive out all the drama queens and trolls from the Lorums. Nothing of value was lost.

That said, no, I disagree on IoF. Saradomin won because he was still more popular. Zamorak has only ever been popular in the Lore Community. And if you go by just the Lore Community, this has always been the case. But our community is small and doesn't represent the average player. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

29-Mar-2017 00:09:39

Raleirosen

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Hazeel said :
Saradomin won because he was still more popular. Zamorak has only ever been popular in the Lore Community. And if you go by just the Lore Community, this has always been the case. But our community is small and doesn't represent the average player. Impossible to verify; cases like this make me wish choosing a god emissary was mandatory. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

29-Mar-2017 04:04:44 - Last edited on 29-Mar-2017 04:05:22 by Raleirosen

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