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Balustan

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Ancientm3ge said :
William Witt said :
Apart from the possibility of other gods being present while Guthix was awake, what I meant was...

William Witt said :
It makes sense if Guthix going to sleep was in fact what marked the start of the Second Age, but do we know even that?

If Guthix going to sleep was not what marked the start of the Second Age, then obviously there would be time remaining in the First Age for gods to come while he was sleeping.

As for the Shaikahan, I'd have to check Tai Bwo Wannai Trio dialogue, but its examine message certainly seems to imply it isn't a lion. I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

We do not know for certain what started the second age. It likely was Guthix falling asleep however it could be any number of events. It cannot however be Zaros' arrival since he arrived and found gods who arrived for certain in the second age such as Saradomin fighting over land.
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13-May-2014 01:00:40

William Witt
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Ancientm3ge said :
I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

...I don't think the game or any official source ever calls it that. :P

Hmm, Balustan, what's the source on Saradomin coming in the Second Age, then?
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13-May-2014 01:02:39 - Last edited on 13-May-2014 01:04:03 by William Witt

Ancientm3ge

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Balustan said :
Ancientm3ge said :
William Witt said :
Apart from the possibility of other gods being present while Guthix was awake, what I meant was...

William Witt said :
It makes sense if Guthix going to sleep was in fact what marked the start of the Second Age, but do we know even that?

If Guthix going to sleep was not what marked the start of the Second Age, then obviously there would be time remaining in the First Age for gods to come while he was sleeping.

As for the Shaikahan, I'd have to check Tai Bwo Wannai Trio dialogue, but its examine message certainly seems to imply it isn't a lion. I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

We do not know for certain what started the second age. It likely was Guthix falling asleep however it could be any number of events. It cannot however be Zaros' arrival since he arrived and found gods who arrived for certain in the second age such as Saradomin fighting over land. That doesn't really matter if he was the first or last to arrive, his arrival would have changed everything much more than the arrival of the other gods.
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13-May-2014 01:03:21

Ancientm3ge

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William Witt said :
Ancientm3ge said :
I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

...I don't think the game or any official source ever calls it that. :P I heard it somewhere!
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13-May-2014 01:03:45

Balustan

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William Witt said :
Ancientm3ge said :
I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

...I don't think the game or any official source ever calls it that. :P

Hmm, Balustan, what's the source on Saradomin coming in the Second Age, then?

I have mo idea what the source for this was. A J Mod a very long time ago long before the 6th age no doubt.
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13-May-2014 01:06:12

Balustan

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Ancientm3ge said :
Balustan said :
Ancientm3ge said :
William Witt said :
Apart from the possibility of other gods being present while Guthix was awake, what I meant was...

William Witt said :
It makes sense if Guthix going to sleep was in fact what marked the start of the Second Age, but do we know even that?

If Guthix going to sleep was not what marked the start of the Second Age, then obviously there would be time remaining in the First Age for gods to come while he was sleeping.

As for the Shaikahan, I'd have to check Tai Bwo Wannai Trio dialogue, but its examine message certainly seems to imply it isn't a lion. I always thought it was the arrival of Zaros that began the second age, as the second age is also known as the Golden Age of Zaros.

We do not know for certain what started the second age. It likely was Guthix falling asleep however it could be any number of events. It cannot however be Zaros' arrival since he arrived and found gods who arrived for certain in the second age such as Saradomin fighting over land. That doesn't really matter if he was the first or last to arrive, his arrival would have changed everything much more than the arrival of the other gods.

I don't think it did. Particularly since he arrived, saw it, left for several years and returned with part of his demonic forces. Also Mod Jack has Zaros arrive sometime into the second age and the last to set up his Empire.
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13-May-2014 01:07:25

William Witt
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If you can't state a source for sure, there is a possibility you could be wrong, right? In which case it could be that Zaros's arrival was what started the Second Age.

Edit: Ah, now I've read what you said about Mod Jack. Hmm, what did Mod Jack actually say?
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13-May-2014 01:09:52 - Last edited on 13-May-2014 01:18:09 by William Witt

Ancientm3ge

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Balustan said :


I don't think it did. Particularly since he arrived, saw it, left for several years and returned with part of his demonic forces. Also Mod Jack has Zaros arrive sometime into the second age and the last to set up his Empire. I respectfully disagree, the arrival of Zaros changed everything, from the scale of Empires to the map of Gielinor itself, his influence as recorded in the Seren section of the book of the gods alludes to this.

Whatever my goddess's intentions, they were set aside when a great emptiness fell upon this world. It spread like a blight across the land.


His presence was even felt in Tirannwn, his influence would have reverberated across the world.
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13-May-2014 01:28:08

Cthris
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I also assumed First age ended when Guthix slept but if there is something stated otherwise, i would love to hear it.


As for gods evading Guthix notice in the first age, didn't in one of the podcast it mention that it was possible Brassica Prime avoided notice? I'm not sure though...

13-May-2014 01:30:13

Chaos Lupus

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William Witt said :
If you can't state a source for sure, there is a possibility you could be wrong, right? In which case it could be that Zaros's arrival was what started the Second Age.

Edit: Ah, now I've read what you said about Mod Jack. Hmm, what did Mod Jack actually say?

The Second Age began when Guthix went into his first slumber. That's gotta be in some quest somewhere...

We should all start keeping track of sources for important information like this more often :P
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13-May-2014 02:47:12

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