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Oct

2005

Wahisietel

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Yeah, it isn't actually Abinnah, all indications are that this world had islands floating in water, not floating in the area. The story also doesn't make sense if the people can just fly across islands. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

15-May-2018 02:07:04

Oct

2009

Goldmage162

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Hguoh said :
So what if each species is primitive. BY NECESSITY, every species must be primitive before they develop. That establishes no connection whatsoever.

Therefore, 2 species could live on different parts of a planet and have no knowledge of the other, unlike our society

Hguoh said :
Yes, Gielinor has many ecosystems with different species and cultures, but its also the perfect balanced world of the elder god's creation. Compare that to literally every other world we know of. They are, more often than not, one-note mildly varying ecosystems across the entirety of the known plane (Teragard? Cold. Mazcab? Wasteland with some oases. Infernus? Hell.).

Cold can describe a Planet of varying geography...all it would do is refer to the overall temperature of a planet. However, both Mazcab and Yu'buisk (the latter of which we know of as having been an earlier creation and therefore less anima balanced then most) seem to have had varying biomes. Mazcab specifically is heavily implied to have suffered some loss of anima in general -even prior to Tuska's arrival- leading to its current state. This may have even gotten worse recently,. with the Goebies having forgotten how to help it like they once did and the corruption of the guardians.

And there's no reason to believe other planets don't have varying climates-we just don't get the opportunity to see large swaths of a planet- all we see are the bits we visit and through portals. Certain ones, mostly the earlier (Vampyrium, Infernus, Leng) are noted as being one-note places, but later, with anima becoming more complex and balanced, it seems to me they are also becoming more balanced.

15-May-2018 12:38:19

Oct

2009

Goldmage162

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Hguoh said :

You're making the mistake of applying irl probabilities to the game's universe. As already discussed, the game establishes that moonlight can be brighter than the plane's sun, that a moon (Zanaris) can hold an adequate atmosphere for life, and that an area's climate depends mostly on anima (rather than geography, currents (air and water), or latitude).

I'm making an assumption that the worlds we know off, with regards to number of stars, are indicative of the rest of the universe. I'm saying that since the vast majority of planets we know of are single stared, it means probably most are. Granted, it's an assumption.

Basically, all I'm saying is that of the planes we know of, the one it is most likely to be (if it is a plane we already know of) is Jermyn, and if not that , then a completely new plane.

As for the place being Abbinah specifically, I doubt it. The 3 caretakers are specifically mentioned as having pushed a raft of the wounded of the island- it seems a stretch to interpret that as anything other then a flotation device for water travel.

I'm curious as to how much of the story, particularly in regards to the beast dying and bringing the other three back to life, is actual fact, and how much of it is just legend?

15-May-2018 12:44:23 - Last edited on 15-May-2018 12:48:16 by Goldmage162

Dec

2023

Iceman3317

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Yep yep you are right. The beast did not kill them. I read it wrong as it was early in the morning. I will go back in correct my first post so people do not get confused.

And thank you for posting a link to the transcript and the book in general. I was in a rush and couldn't post it all.

So many posts! I can't wait to read what everyone has to say. Come the Sixth-Age, the world will need the World Guardian.

15-May-2018 15:59:47

Swolllliosis

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Ok, I will say it: WHY DIDN'T THE BEAST JUST HEAL THEM OF THEIR DISEASES? Or at least kill the enemy tribes with its divine might? Get out of that dang cave for once you lazy turd.

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18-May-2018 06:07:44

Hguoh

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Swolllliosis said :
Ok, I will say it: WHY DIDN'T THE BEAST JUST HEAL THEM OF THEIR DISEASES? Or at least kill the enemy tribes with its divine might? Get out of that dang cave for once you lazy turd.

Healing is not innately a godly power. If a god knows how to heal, they can use their divine power to do so, but nothing about being a god necessitates that they need know healing magics.

So if I had to guess, I'd theorize that it just didn't know how to.

18-May-2018 10:11:31

Dec

2023

Cthris

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Swolllliosis said :
Ok, I will say it: WHY DIDN'T THE BEAST JUST HEAL THEM OF THEIR DISEASES? Or at least kill the enemy tribes with its divine might? Get out of that dang cave for once you lazy turd.
Injuries are healed, diseases are cured. You're using the wrong word. Semantics admittedly, but coincidentally its consistent with gameplay. It doesn't matter how many rocktails you feed your character you do not cure disease or cleanse poison. Diseases take skilled precision and knowledge to remedy, i.e. elicym's balm; it would seem that if the disease was severe enough one cannot just use the brute force method of channelling healing energy to cure a patient.

As an animalistic beast, it wouldn't be likely that the Beast would know how to effectively cure a disease.

18-May-2018 23:34:27

Sep

2014

Gamez X

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Hguoh said :
The 3 Karamjan gods come from a plane with 2 suns. Said plane seems to be named Hangazha and consists of loose floating islands in a great sea

FYI, i just asked raven about this name and he said hangazha isnt the name of the world afterall. Its more like path to the afterlife in karamjan belief so it might well be the karamjan name for the river noumenon

25-May-2018 14:44:30

Edcy

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Oh such junglish mumbos and jumbos are minorest matters when we come to think how many gods have come and gone before all currently known...

just popping by for some reason

26-May-2018 07:07:39 - Last edited on 26-May-2018 07:07:53 by Edcy

Hguoh

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Gamez X said :
Hguoh said :
The 3 Karamjan gods come from a plane with 2 suns. Said plane seems to be named Hangazha and consists of loose floating islands in a great sea

FYI, i just asked raven about this name and he said hangazha isnt the name of the world afterall. Its more like path to the afterlife in karamjan belief so it might well be the karamjan name for the river noumenon

I did hedge my bets by saying 'seems to be named.'

I don't think it's a name for the Noumenon, though. Given Harold Death's role in bringing souls to the Noumenon and Icthlarin's role in guiding souls to their afterlives, it seems like the Underworld, and the Noumenon within, are part of the plane of Gielinor, while other planes' Deaths would bring souls to their own Underworlds, while the souls would then travel to whatever plane's afterlife they are destined to.

26-May-2018 15:00:19

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