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Azzanadra is rather...alt right, due to his strict "no miscegenation, that won't preserve our people" stance, Kharshai too, 'cause he's all about securing a decent future for his own people (I even have a feeling he redpilled Azzy, sometime after Children of Mah). ·
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08-May-2017 04:18:10 - Last edited on 08-May-2017 04:39:32 by SwedishPagns

Faledak
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SwedishPagns said :
Azzanadra is rather...alt right, due to his strict "no miscegenation, that won't preserve our people" stance, Kharshai too, 'cause he's all about securing a decent future for his own people (I even have a feeling he redpilled Azzy, sometime after Children of Mah).


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08-May-2017 11:25:42

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AttilaSquare said :
AesirWarrior said :
- Saradomin is pretty clearly inspired by the Judeo-Christian God when it comes to appearance and following. Especially the medieval interpretation of God as a powerful warrior king. As for the character himself I'd say he's got some Zeus mixed with maybe a smidge of Odin. Of course, that's all secondary, as his main trait is he's very human.


It might be worth noting that Saradomin is more inspired by an early to late modern Anglo-Protestant picture of God, as well as by influences from the cultural forces opposed to that picture. To run together the vast array of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim descriptions of God in Europe, North Africa, and Western Asia that appeared over the course of a millennium would be an unfortunate oversimplification of history.



Well, I grew up very far from Anglo-Protestant religion and know little about it, but I instantly recognized Saradominism as an allegory on Christianity. Saradominist clerics speeches and their way of thinking reminded me of Christian clerics a lot.

Even more so, I'd see more sense in expanding this allegory on western monotheistic religions rather than limiting it to some branch of Christianity. Saradominism has that "No other gods before me" attitude that is very monotheistic.

08-May-2017 20:37:01 - Last edited on 09-May-2017 16:58:38 by LadyScalpel

SwedishPagns

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Faledak said :
SwedishPagns said :
Azzanadra is rather...alt right, due to his strict "no miscegenation, that won't preserve our people" stance, Kharshai too, 'cause he's all about securing a decent future for his own people (I even have a feeling he redpilled Azzy, sometime after Children of Mah).


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I also think of Saradomin as a nationalist, ever since I heard the truth about Garlandia. The icyene of New Domina was under attack, and he was like "we're under attack, we can't take this, we have to protect our people, those other guys are gonna regret ever attacking us," he was all about protecting his own people, and putting them first. When I found that out I was like "wtf I like Saradomin now."

Garlandia on the other hand...I associate her with absolute total cuckey; only a cuck would be like "yeah, I how there are people outside our gates, they're completely hostile, but I still think we should drop our weapons and make peace with them, sure, they want us all dead, but if we just opened our hearts, if we were nicer, that'd totally fix everything."
Only a cuck could've thought and said that when facing with people that hate you and want to kill you.

No Garlandia, that would've lead to the demise of the icyene, I'm glad Saradomin said "no f**king way" to that, and I'm also glad this cuck got what she deserved.
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09-May-2017 00:05:13 - Last edited on 09-May-2017 00:08:42 by SwedishPagns

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SwedishPagns said :
I also think of Saradomin as a nationalist, ever since I heard the truth about Garlandia.
It's worth noting that Saradomin also said these things:

"We were disparate nations, spread across the world. When I ascended, I decided to rectify that. To bring an end to pointless conflicts over invisible territorial lines that serve no one."


"A benevolent god would seek to protect all people, not just a subset. "


"But I, too, have a duty. A duty to care for my followers, and for those who have yet to see the light. "


Doesn't sound much like a nationalist to me, and I don't think that's what Jagex was going for. I've always found political allegories in fantasy works to be preachy and boring, personally. (Inb4 someone says "preachy and boring" is a description that fits me or the Saradominist faction.) SwedishPagns said :
Garlandia on the other hand...I associate her with absolute total cuckey; only a cuck would be like "yeah, I how there are people outside our gates, they're completely hostile, but I still think we should drop our weapons and make peace with them, sure, they want us all dead, but if we just opened our hearts, if we were nicer, that'd totally fix everything.
I find it impossible to take anyone who unironically uses the term "cuck" seriously. It just makes you sound like an alt right puppet spouting political buzzwords instead of someone who actually thinks for himself. I'm sorry if that's a bit harsh, but I feel like it needs to be said.
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09-May-2017 18:31:56

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Questcaping said :
East and West Keldagrim remind me a fair bit of East and West Berlin -- though with less of a wall, more of a river.
They aren't separate governments though. I'd equate it more to something like many real life cities having severe demographic and wealth levels by different regions. West vs. East Aurora, West/South Side Chicago vs. the Loop or the North Side, for a video game example Balmora from Morrowind is also economically split by a river.

09-May-2017 23:10:31

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I feel like Ardougne is a better reflection of West and East Berlin (even though the East and West are inverted in this case). It's even got a wall to prevent people from getting out.

That being said the whole Ardougne thing seems to be based on the legendary Frankish king Charlemagne (founder of the Holy Roman Empire) and his brother Carloman. Lathas even has paladins like Charlemagne, and the novels mention to keep an eye out for him "and for his mother" - possible reference to Bertrada of Laon.

Carloman's sudden death proved very convenient for Charlemagne, allowing him to become king of all Francia, though the latter probably did not trick a bumbling adventurer into exploding the former with a barrel bomb... Or did he?
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10-May-2017 00:18:45 - Last edited on 10-May-2017 00:19:30 by William Witt

SwedishPagns

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Raleirosen said :
Jex, he's trolling

duh


Nope. I legitimately associate Azzy and Kharshai with the alt right, especially if I was to predict where they stood on the left/right, libertarian/authoritarian compass (they'd both be in the upper right blue square). I was pretty surprised when I saw his Endgame dialogue, never expected to see an alt right NPC here of all places.

Note: It's pretty well-known around here that I have some rather...controversial views. To prevent people from getting the wrong impression, I don't think the same thing he does; I don't go around calling those who are mixed, "abominations," I get they didn't choose to be mixed. That being said, I don't condemn them either; I was never one to police other people's behaviour.
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10-May-2017 04:47:01 - Last edited on 10-May-2017 04:59:35 by SwedishPagns

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