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2021

AesirWarrior

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AttilaSquare said :
AesirWarrior said :
- Saradomin is pretty clearly inspired by the Judeo-Christian God when it comes to appearance and following. Especially the medieval interpretation of God as a powerful warrior king. As for the character himself I'd say he's got some Zeus mixed with maybe a smidge of Odin. Of course, that's all secondary, as his main trait is he's very human.
- Zaros I'd argue is also inspired by God to an extent, not really as a character but in the way his empire portrayed him.
- The Zarosian empire is, obviously, inspired by the Roman Empire.
- Zamorak was inspired by Satan, until his "god of evil" persona was retconned to be Saradominist propaganda. He's still got the devil-like appearance It might be worth noting that Saradomin is more inspired by an early to late modern Anglo-Protestant picture of God, as well as by influences from the cultural forces opposed to that picture. To run together the vast array of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim descriptions of God in Europe, North Africa, and Western Asia that appeared over the course of a millennium would be an unfortunate oversimplification of history.

I apologise. I only had vague memories from a History lesson years ago so I couldn't be more specific. -

I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?

- We call it being a hero.

30-Apr-2017 19:08:43

AttilaSquare

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AesirWarrior said :
AttilaSquare said :
AesirWarrior said :
- Saradomin is pretty clearly inspired by the Judeo-Christian God when it comes to appearance and following. Especially the medieval interpretation of God as a powerful warrior king. As for the character himself I'd say he's got some Zeus mixed with maybe a smidge of Odin. Of course, that's all secondary, as his main trait is he's very human.
- Zaros I'd argue is also inspired by God to an extent, not really as a character but in the way his empire portrayed him.
- The Zarosian empire is, obviously, inspired by the Roman Empire.
- Zamorak was inspired by Satan, until his "god of evil" persona was retconned to be Saradominist propaganda. He's still got the devil-like appearance It might be worth noting that Saradomin is more inspired by an early to late modern Anglo-Protestant picture of God, as well as by influences from the cultural forces opposed to that picture. To run together the vast array of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim descriptions of God in Europe, North Africa, and Western Asia that appeared over the course of a millennium would be an unfortunate oversimplification of history.

I apologise. I only had vague memories from a History lesson years ago so I couldn't be more specific. No problem, man.

30-Apr-2017 22:33:31

SurviveDeath

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Wow lol keep them coming, there is really a bunch of things that I didn't know.

Anyways here a nice little piece of trivia I found out. The Kharid-Ib has a weight of 21 grams and this is referencing Duncan MacDougall's experiments which tried to prove the existence of the soul by claiming that the soul had mass. The experiments to prove this hypothesis included weighing the mass of a living thing just before death and after death and if there is a loss of mass, it was evidence that it is attributed by the soul leaving the body.

The loss of 21 grams is the value he found when he weighed human subjects before and after death. Of course, the Kharid-Ib is a physical object and Tumeken is a god so the loss in mass may not be the actual weight of the Kharid-Ib. The question is whether after subtracting the actual mass of the physical object would Tumeken's actual soul be lighter than a feather (referencing to Weighing of the Heart) or is it heavier and burdened by sins.

01-May-2017 04:59:29

Aug

2023

William Witt

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Can confirm, Saradominism (the religion, not just the god) is more so Anglicanism than Catholicism.

Lots of references tied in in regards to Saradomin.

The backstory of the Temple Knights seems to be inspired by the unjust fate of the Knights Templar, a historical monastic order dedicated to protecting pilgrims in the Holy Land.

The lion is an important Christian symbol historically, and lions are associated with Saradomin on RuneScape.

Gideon Bede is a straight-up transplant of the medieval monk and scholar St. Bede.

I've noted some possible parallels between St. Zilyana and St. Michael the Archangel (commander of God's armies, sometimes depicted with a sword).

The Asgarnian ale must flow.

01-May-2017 05:57:26

AttilaSquare

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There used to be a great reference to the friar Gregor Mendel, who discovered how the inheritance of dominant and recessive traits works, in the Edgeville monastery - are the white, red, and pink roses still there?

Probably the best place to look for things like this is in the trivia sections of the wikia pages.

01-May-2017 13:20:30

Byzantinist

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I've always made connections between the God Wars and the Second World War, as if it were some twisted fantasy remake. Just think of it: Zammy tried to gain power by a coup d'état, gathering followers by blaming everything on the former system, and guiding them through his philosophy of struggle, trying to shape a new empire with remnants of Zaros' and other's peoples, going to war over it, and making the whole world tremble in its wake.

Zamorak seems similiar to Germany/Japan, with its harsh style of treating unworthy races, attacking and usurping neighbouring nations to nourish its endless power-hunger, eventually exterminating everyone and everything opposing it, aiming to get as many resources as possible with the aim of overcoming everyone else militarily, eventually overextending itself and slowly losing to the other three powers, leaving a lot of destruction in its long chaotic retreat.

Armadyl could be seen like the United States, training all its soldiers and constructing its war-machine in a relatively short time, shifting from an era of peace to one of war, building the greatest strategic aviation, and sacrificing huge resources to defeat 'evil', at the cost of considerable losses.

Bandos would be like the Soviet Union, creating a war-economy right off the bat, exploiting and brainwashing its people to support the brutal regime militarily, dedicating HUGE amounts of recources to make war-materials, creating a humongous expansionist land army, boasting that its ideology must be continued by war to crush all other nations 'threatening' its existence, and using its inhabitants like mindless body shields to get back at the enemy.

Saradomin could be seen as Great-Brittain, being an orderly and decent people with great amounts of land at its disposal beforehand, , calling out for help to its former enemies and defeating the nation that had dared to take its throne to rule the world, but eventually losing its position as a superpower to an emerging one. Sometimes one must operate within the

shadows

to serve the

light

. For a man makes no noise over a good deed, but passes on to another as a vine to bear fruits again in season, in order that the world may ever be new.

02-May-2017 22:51:32

Deltaslug

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Copper, Tin, Bronze, Iron, Steel, Coal, Gold, and Silver are all real life metals and ores and alloys.

Same for many of the trees.

The Elves are Gaelic and Welsh based on their origins.

King Arthur and his knights are heavily rooted in the real life Arthurian legends.

03-May-2017 00:37:08

Aug

2023

William Witt

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Deltaslug said :
Copper, Tin, Bronze, Iron, Steel, Coal, Gold, and Silver are all real life metals and ores and alloys.

Same for many of the trees.

The Elves are Gaelic and Welsh based on their origins.

King Arthur and his knights are heavily rooted in the real life Arthurian legends.

If we're doing that, I might as well mention that in some cases, fish or trees or things that players might not realize are real *actually are*.

- Terrorbirds are a type of prehistoric bird.

- Dire wolves are real. (or were? I can't recall if they're also prehistoric.)

- Monkfish are real (and the scientific name of at least one species begins with "Piscatoris&quot

.

- I believe all the Eastern fish (including wobbegong sharks) are real.

- Jade vines are real, and Horacio tells you their real scientific name ("Strongylodon Macrobotrys&quot

. To my knowledge the real ones don't move and attack people, though.

- Elder trees and yew trees are real.

-
Vampyres are real

The Asgarnian ale must flow.

03-May-2017 02:18:15 - Last edited on 03-May-2017 02:20:55 by William Witt

May

2022

Rifleavenger

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William Witt said :

- Dire wolves are real. (or were? I can't recall if they're also prehistoric.) I can confirm that Canis dirus is extinct. However, it went extinct less than 10000 years ago, so it made it close to the recent.

SurviveDeath said :
Anyways here a nice little piece of trivia I found out. The Kharid-Ib has a weight of 21 grams and this is referencing Duncan MacDougall's experiments which tried to prove the existence of the soul by claiming that the soul had mass. The experiments to prove this hypothesis included weighing the mass of a living thing just before death and after death and if there is a loss of mass, it was evidence that it is attributed by the soul leaving the body. Wow, this wins my award for "obscure reference most likely to become plot relevant" in this thread so far.

03-May-2017 07:07:08 - Last edited on 03-May-2017 07:08:19 by Rifleavenger

Crow Crimson

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Lumbridge and the River Lum being such central places in the game could be references to Jagex's hq Cambridge, and the nearby River Cam. The legendary creators have been long gone from this world. When they return, they'll be surprised and angered of their creations' new sapience. Meanwhile, the world's most elite, summoned to be its guardians, have abandoned their purpose and intend to plunge the world into chaos. -- Bionicle or RS?

03-May-2017 22:19:55

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