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Hazeel

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I still think there should be a backup set of rules in case our current system is ever exploited, as well as details underlining how to quickly bring this backup into place if we ever face serious trouble. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

11-Mar-2016 21:09:23

Mopedi
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I am not going to point out specific people here, but can we have stricter monitoring in the Lore FC? Over half of the conversations that go on in the fc is rated NC-17, and these discussions most certainly break the RS rules. The fc rarely even talks about actual lore. Mostly gruesome fanfiction and headcanon fantasy discussions between RS characters take place in the fc - and this is of the adult nature. I am not trying to be a social justice warrior here or anything. I am just being a good boy, obeying the rules Jagex implemented, and seemingly, the lore fc seems to be an environment that digresses away from these policies.

I have used the report system a many times when someone utters things that would fall under the"seriously inappropriate language", but these individuals keep coming back after X days/weeks after they served their mute sentences. The only sure fire way to keep this fc in line with Jagex's rules is to have generals or whatever to be able to kick/ban individuals, so they do not keep coming back and speaking whatever is on their perverse mind. Yes, I understand it is your freedom of speech to say whatever you want, but that rule has its limits. It is limited in public schools and many other places. Our free speech is limited the moment we clicked "accept" to the Terms and Conditions when we signed up for RS and we all must abide to these rules. If others others do not follow these rules, we need to discourage them to, not encourage/ignore them, and if they refuse to cooperate, we must shun them (kick/ban them), even if Jagex's report system won't.
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14-Mar-2016 05:44:41

Chaos Lupus

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Mopedi said :
I am not going to point out specific people here, but can we have stricter monitoring in the Lore FC? Over half of the conversations that go on in the fc is rated NC-17, and these discussions most certainly break the RS rules. The fc rarely even talks about actual lore. Mostly gruesome fanfiction and headcanon fantasy discussions between RS characters take place in the fc - and this is of the adult nature. I am not trying to be a social justice warrior here or anything. I am just being a good boy, obeying the rules Jagex implemented, and seemingly, the lore fc seems to be an environment that digresses away from these policies.

I have used the report system a many times when someone utters things that would fall under the"seriously inappropriate language", but these individuals keep coming back after X days/weeks after they served their mute sentences. The only sure fire way to keep this fc in line with Jagex's rules is to have generals or whatever to be able to kick/ban individuals, so they do not keep coming back and speaking whatever is on their perverse mind. Yes, I understand it is your freedom of speech to say whatever you want, but that rule has its limits. It is limited in public schools and many other places. Our free speech is limited the moment we clicked "accept" to the Terms and Conditions when we signed up for RS and we all must abide to these rules. If others others do not follow these rules, we need to discourage them to, not encourage/ignore them, and if they refuse to cooperate, we must shun them (kick/ban them), even if Jagex's report system won't.


I don't see the issue. If you don't want to see what others are saying, just put them on your ignore list. I don't see how monitoring everyone like children is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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14-Mar-2016 06:01:14

Unicornz pwn
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@Loopy

People troll. I ignore them. I take them off. I may repeat.

There's a very clear solution here that does not involve the implementation of draconian policies to appease a few.
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14-Mar-2016 06:15:28

Mopedi
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Chaos Lupus said :


I don't see the issue. If you don't want to see what others are saying, just put them on your ignore list. I don't see how monitoring everyone like children is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.


They are breaking the game rules. If there were no rules that forbade the discussion of things such as s*xual content, I would allow this, but this is not the case. Jagex's report system obviously isn't working. I've seen advertisers near lodestones that I reported, and they are still there days later. If Jagex's report systems can't take care of the rulebreakers, we are next in line to take action. We need to help Jagex monitor the game and make this a friendly for all environment, like they intended so in the rules. We can't simply ignore something and pretend the world is not exploding around us. We might not be able to mute them, like the rules state they should be, but we can still kick/ban them until they learn how to behave.

This FC may not have much rules, but it should at least follow jagex's main rules.
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14-Mar-2016 06:28:17

Hazeel

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At risk of stirring up another rule vote....regardless of your views on rules regarding topics, we don't have generals anymore so trying to limit discussion in any way just isn't on the table unless we re-adopt the general system. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

14-Mar-2016 06:31:08

Visenya 1st

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Mopedi said :
Chaos Lupus said :


I don't see the issue. If you don't want to see what others are saying, just put them on your ignore list. I don't see how monitoring everyone like children is the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.


They are breaking the game rules. If there were no rules that forbade the discussion of things such as s*xual content, I would allow this, but this is not the case. Jagex's report system obviously isn't working. I've seen advertisers near lodestones that I reported, and they are still there days later. If Jagex's report systems can't take care of the rulebreakers, we are next in line to take action. We need to help Jagex monitor the game and make this a friendly for all environment, like they intended so in the rules. We can't simply ignore something and pretend the world is not exploding around us. We might not be able to mute them, like the rules state they should be, but we can still kick/ban them until they learn how to behave.

This FC may not have much rules, but it should at least follow jagex's main rules.


So that means we can't talk about politics either.

Chaos Lupus said :
6.) Real life issues, including politics and religion, are permitted topics of discussion.


So we're gonna be a pretty inactive FC, considering how often we go from Lore FC to Politics FC.

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14-Mar-2016 06:33:01 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2016 06:33:23 by Visenya 1st

Half Centaur
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Hazeel said :
At risk of stirring up another rule vote....regardless of your views on rules regarding topics, we don't have generals anymore so trying to limit discussion in any way just isn't on the table unless we re-adopt the general system.
"We call it being a hero"
"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"

14-Mar-2016 06:37:30

Visenya 1st

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Half Centaur said :
Hazeel said :
At risk of stirring up another rule vote....regardless of your views on rules regarding topics, we don't have generals anymore so trying to limit discussion in any way just isn't on the table unless we re-adopt the general system.


If that ever happens, then amount the trolling, slander, baiting and hating from both sides would most certainly go down.

If we get generals again, I (or rather my brother, I'm saying this on his behalf) nominate Nature Rosa.

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We will make the Zarosian Empire great again.

14-Mar-2016 06:40:52

Mopedi
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@vis


Talking about religion or politics is not an in-game rule, according to the code of conducts. Therefore, it is okay to talk about it in the lore fc. We just cannot discriminate people for their idealogies. Talking about politics and religion IS against the forum rules, however.

However, talking about explicit adult content and using highly obscene and suggestive language is against the rules in both in-game and forum, which is what the fc is having trouble straying away from.

And yes, I suggest we make people like Nature Rosa, Katrana, Solantuntklr, for general.
Lord of the Cywir clan: All creatures of darkness will face the light of Seren!

14-Mar-2016 06:42:46 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2016 06:46:33 by Mopedi

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