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Hazeel

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Raxxess said :
Right no one is but as I understand it that was how Dethal saw it because Sky was given a warning and really nothing happened to Paladin.

And we have to be honest with ourselves here if this was reversed and it was an old school zarosian FC general that kicked some new Saradominist member the same people claiming pladin didnt do anything wouldn't really have cared. The major criticism about the lore fc is that it's really cliquey and the whole point of new generals was to make it more inclusive and get people who avoided it for that reason to join back and it worked so far, but stuff like this is just more of the same old @#$%.


Going to be honest with you...I don't have the slightest desire to bring anyone back to the FC. Some left the game or were banned for Dethal for whatever reason and there's nothing we can really do about that. The others who left willingly were complete drama queens, political factioneers, and their departure ultimately helped the FC's membership flourish.

I can't speak in the case for Zarosian FC all that well since it was pretty exclusive to Zarosians, but based on 2nd hand information, it sounded a lot like another "safe space" to me. So yes, I'm sure a Saradominist would have gotten kicked from the Zarosian FC and nobody would have batted an eye.

As for Sky...

Raxxess said :
But in this sense I can't help but be biased. We have on one side a general who is pretty well respected by the lore community at large not just the fc and on the other coin someone who has been banned in the fc before because of instances of trolling and many events similar to this.


You made this comment earlier, and while many people do respect him, he's had issues like this before. Sometimes poor kicking choices, other times just making bad decisions (often times they were well intended though), which is why people are getting hard on him at this point.
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

08-Dec-2016 17:10:19

Vardan

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Does Paladin actually offer anything useful to the FC that makes him worth keeping around? Or does he just shill his Twitch channel and shitpost about how "this will be the quest I finally kill Saradomin guise, plz donate to my paetron so I can afford tendies"? Because whether Sky overreached or not, I really don't see why banning a known shitposter who advertises his cringeworthy reddit crusade is a bad thing.
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08-Dec-2016 17:15:04

Vardan

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Cthris said :
I like him . He's pretty cool, and I don't think we should ever start evaluating people's worth.

Heh I'm not surprised.

But I was moreso asking for an evaluation of his loss. And people have already evaluated other peoples worth in the past if the posts in this thread are any indication.
We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.

08-Dec-2016 17:20:36

Cthris
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Vardan said :
Cthris said :
I like him . He's pretty cool, and I don't think we should ever start evaluating people's worth.

Heh I'm not surprised.

But I was moreso asking for an evaluation of his loss. And people have already evaluated other peoples worth in the past if the posts in this thread are any indication.

Okay maybe they have. It wouldn't surprise me but that doesn't mean it should continue.

08-Dec-2016 17:22:44

Hazeel

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Vardan said :
Does Paladin actually offer anything useful to the FC that makes him worth keeping around?


A cheap laugh. But seriously, if I started applying that logic to everyone, there would be a lot of kicks. And if I had kicked everyone who I felt had worn out their welcome, I would have gone mad with power abuse ages ago. Good thing I didn't, honestly. It was much less dramatic to let them leave on their own accord.

It's not about Paladin, it's about the principle.
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

08-Dec-2016 17:37:18 - Last edited on 08-Dec-2016 17:56:39 by Hazeel

Ava Enithesi

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Cthris said :
Ava Enithesi said :
Paladin just always throws bait out there, hoping for a bite...he's an annoying insect. On the one hand, those saying that Paladin dindu nuffin are kind of right; he's too stupid and childish to take seriously


So quick question.. When did it become okay to personally attack other players and not npcs? Heck, when did this become less worse than trolling? At least trolling can be done in a way to no personally attack anyone. If anyone deserves kicking it's whoever says things like this about another players.


The way he's acted has been stupid and childish, it's blatantly obvious that he just wants someone to rage at him. Nevertheless, his attempts at baiting fall flat every time, usually dismissed with something like, "we know you're a devout Saradominist, Paladin."

Pointing out that he's been acting in a way that is stupid and childish for the better part of three years (and therefore opining that he is stupid and childish), when that's pretty much the only thing I've ever seen him do, is pretty weak as far as a personal attack goes.

And if anything, I'm discouraging people from actually being vicious and vitriolic with him by pointing out that one the one hand, he does flamebait, but on the other hand, nobody takes it seriously enough to be mad at him to the point that they would start flaming him, nor should they .

Sure, he's harmless. But would I be sad if I never see him again? No.

All that said, warning duly noted.

08-Dec-2016 18:26:23

Ascertes

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Ancient Drew said :
@ Hazeel

I came on earlier to apologise for causing any trouble here. I'll come on sometimes and chat, maybe share my views, but I won't add to drama since I know what it does to communities.


I don't see why you think you caused any problems. AFAIK nobody has complained about you, on the forums or otherwise. Until such a time you're more than welcome in Lore Fc.
-Ascertes, King of all the Hallowlands and the Everchosen of Saradomin.

08-Dec-2016 19:47:02

Half Centaur
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So I've been trying to avoid jumping into this again because I want this to blow-over not escalate- but I'd like to point out that a lot of you are straight up flaming a player at this point.


And what the hell is this talk about "whether he's useful?"

What does that even mean???

Are you useful? Do you "contribute"?

We're not gonna just kick people because someone else thinks they are useless. If they're spamming/flamming- fine. But it's not on you to decide what topics are PC or useful or whatever else you wanna call it.

I'm very disappointed by the tone some of you guys are taking to this issue.
"We call it being a hero"
"That's interesting, we call it utter stupidity"

08-Dec-2016 19:48:01

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