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Caeside
Dec Member 2012

Caeside

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ah yes, what he thinks is best for his followers and what is best are 2 different things.
I have no doubt Saradomin will fight to the death to preserve his ideals.
he himself has stated he thought the crown gave him the right to rule.

08-Jan-2014 11:58:18 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2014 12:07:50 by Caeside

Lord Bilrach

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Falcoshin said :
Like I said, the difference between them is their means, not their ends.


What is the difference in the means? They're doing the exact same thing...grabbing their dying armies from the original God Wars and putting them back into war against the non-peaceful Gods.

08-Jan-2014 16:18:18

Cybernet377
Aug Member 2008

Cybernet377

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Lord Bilrach said :
Falcoshin said :
Like I said, the difference between them is their means, not their ends.


What is the difference in the means? They're doing the exact same thing...grabbing their dying armies from the original God Wars and putting them back into war against the non-peaceful Gods.


What are you talking about? There's totally a difference!

Saradomin's is already dead and he's enlisting us to raise them.

24-Jan-2014 16:37:18

Master Aqua
May Member 2012

Master Aqua

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Regardless to what you may or may not think about saradomin (I personally despise him), one thing shines true thats mentioned, time and time again, his rashness. Naggir don't follow him? Looses his temper and slaughters them! The Sir Owen incident? The poor fellow ends up corrupted!, fights zamorak and leaves lumbridge in ruins! Pulls the wing's out of an icyene, just because she did not want to fight and leaves her to a potentially horrible death!

Time and time again saradomin has demonstrated his rash and brash behavior!

Cn he be redeeemed and stop making rash mistakes again and again and again? It does not matter, it's not worth the risk of him making an even greater mistake!

The truth is the world is a better place with saradomin, not in it.

26-Jan-2014 23:45:47

Falcoshin

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Naggir don't follow him? Looses his temper and slaughters them!

First off, I'd like to know what the "Naggir" are if they're not the Naragi.

If they are the Naragi, however, there are a couple of things to keep in mind with the main one being that this happened well over 12,000 years ago when Saradomin was still adapting to his powers. A lot of things have changed since then with Saradomin's patience and wisdom being two big ones. In Death of Chivalry he expresses deep regret for his actions at the time whether you choose to believe they are genuine or not (though I hardly see any reason not to believe him).

The Sir Owen incident? The poor fellow ends up corrupted!

Just because someone isn't 100% pure and innocent doesn't mean they're a bad person. In retrospect, we should actually be worried if the wand COULD revive Owen flawlessly with Saradomin using it as it would prove that Saradomin has done a great disservice to his patron trait of wisdom. A good way of thinking about this is to not see Saradomin as an infallible god, but rather as a wise and just king who, despite wanting to do all the good he can, must make difficult decisions from time to time which can't save everyone.

fights zamorak and leaves lumbridge in ruins!

It's not like he can snap his fingers and fix the area completely, you know.

Pulls the wing's out of an icyene, just because she did not want to fight and leaves her to a potentially horrible death!

Mod Moltare has actually said recently that Garlandia's account wasn't completely unbiased implying there's more to this incident than meets the eye. Personally, I think she was involved with the rebels on New Domina and isn't (or at least wasn't) as pacifist as she claims to be.

28-Jan-2014 06:42:35

axe11154

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Falcoshin said :

The Sir Owen incident? The poor fellow ends up corrupted!

Just because someone isn't 100% pure and innocent doesn't mean they're a bad person. In retrospect, we should actually be worried if the wand COULD revive Owen flawlessly with Saradomin using it as it would prove that Saradomin has done a great disservice to his patron trait of wisdom. A good way of thinking about this is to not see Saradomin as an infallible god, but rather as a wise and just king who, despite wanting to do all the good he can, must make difficult decisions from time to time which can't save everyone.

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the dead should stay dead, misdeeds are the ash that paints you my friend, you must live with it till death.
Scarred by Bandos, Forever ready for war.

28-Jan-2014 14:04:42 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2014 14:05:53 by axe11154

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