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Nerevarine x

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[#QUDSWSOIF] said :
I'm sorry, but trying to exterminate a entire religious group is actually genocide, he was trying to rid the world of Zarosians, ergo genocide, you cannot deny, but you can defend it, which I hope you will do

I can deny it as the evidence for Saradomin exterminating Zarosians is insufficient.

06-Dec-2013 12:38:52

Solanumtinkr

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Actually you cannot prove that he did not as evidence does point to that having happened. While it may not be beyond reasonable doubt, in court it would still be enough to take it to trial. The gods, acting separately and avoiding attacking each others armies, systematically destroyed every city and trace of Zaros that they could reasonably track down. Unfortunately the highest ranking members of the Zarosian faction were not contained well enough and the thing they feared most is now coming to pass.

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06-Dec-2013 12:41:31

[#QUDSWSOIF]

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You just need to look at the history to know it happened lol, there is also lore to support it even if it is just a small amount that you deem insufficient, if that's all there is that's all there is, you have to make a conclusion based on it, and well, everybody else has came to the same conclusion, your the only person I have met that has said there was no extermination.

06-Dec-2013 12:50:20

Solanumtinkr

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I see no reason why Saradomin would resent humans from this evidence.


Yet one important omission is how nonhumans viewed humanity as a whole, not just Saradominist Icyene. Up until recently, one theme that was constant with most, but not all, factions was humans being a lower class 'weak' species to be looked down on. It's only the 4th and the humans rampant rise to global dominance in the 5th Age that has changed at least some of the gods views of humans in general.

There are still some that see humans as weak and pathetic, like Bandos and that guy has Goblins, I think he will be in for a rude awaking though. The Vampires and Trolls look down on humans as weak, yet they haven't exactly defeated us in except localy around their own strongholds. And people like the Merque are about to shift the balance of power and if Burthrope ever gets it's act together the Trolls will be in trouble too.

At least while they have no access to any species of soldiers they deem 'better'. So the balance could yet shift. Still unlike last time, I think the various nonhuman faction followers would be in for a nasty surprise if they tried to treat humans like second class citizens now. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
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06-Dec-2013 13:15:18 - Last edited on 06-Dec-2013 13:17:02 by Solanumtinkr

Chaos Lupus

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Nerevarine x said :
[#QUDSWSOIF] said :
I'm sorry, but trying to exterminate a entire religious group is actually genocide, he was trying to rid the world of Zarosians, ergo genocide, you cannot deny, but you can defend it, which I hope you will do

I can deny it as the evidence for Saradomin exterminating Zarosians is insufficient.

But a Saradominist icyene general, thousands of years ago, who may have never existed is sufficient evidence about Zamorak and his armies?
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06-Dec-2013 13:54:13

Dethal
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Dethal said :
Nerevarine x said :
It's funny how you make assertions without reading the thread, I do mention the Naragi feared Saradomin in my explanations.

I can't take you seriously when you haven't put the effort into reading the details.

And I can't take myself seriously if I waste my time reading your threads completely.
But thanks for supporting my views, you just admitted I'm right.

I think you missed this. I'm pretty cool

06-Dec-2013 14:46:05

Androme

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Saradomin didn't try to ''exterminate an entire religious group of people'', there weren't any ''Zarosians'', only annexed peoples that had been brainwashed by Zaros, whom fought for him despite living under dreadful conditions. Zaros and his following consists of an extremely small number of people, and always has.

06-Dec-2013 15:47:17

Solanumtinkr

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Yet there is evidence pointing out that those 'annexed' people were shown to have had to flee for their lives. If you think people will give up their way of life simply because you have large army at their door, then I have some bottom land I want to sell you. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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06-Dec-2013 15:53:53

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