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DuxBellorum
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It was stated that Mah would wipe out all life after recognising it's potential in the previous cycles. So, I'm guessing she was sabotaged by one of the other Elder Gods. Judging by the looks of things, Wen may be the culprit. This could be false, as there's a 6th Elder God we know nothing about.

Coming to Azzanadra, I'm guessing that the cause of his concern is that just as the ceiling of his powers seems to have vanished, so too the other Mahjarrat. This unfortunately would include Sliske, who wasn't even there, but is the most dangerous bugger of them all, what with TWO elder artifacts and an unknown master. <This master, I suspect, is an Elder God, possibly the 6th who does't even have a form, and wants to devour the Anima of all the assembled gods in Sliske's Endgame, as we saw in their discussion during Kindred Spirits. Or, it's just my paranoia of associating everything to an Elder God who we know nothing about.>

Is Zamorak even a god anymore? It seems that he sacrificed his divine energy to save the Mahjarrat; this energy he used may never return.....

I hope Seren and Zaros reconcile. :/

Lastly, the only order I can imagine Zaros giving Zamorak as his Legatus Maximus for some reason is.......

"Zamorak.......KILL the World Guardian."

22-Nov-2016 09:09:02

Genralxp
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Oh Alas, all this time spent thinking that Ful was to be blamed for the insanity of Mah!

Time to make up a new conspiracy theory. It could be a coup d'etat: Mah being the most powerful being during the previous cycles, the Elder Gods growing fearful and envious. So they could spoil the core of the sleeping mistress. That would explain all this lava around the egg (Ful), the power over volcanic eruptions and earthquakes (Bik), the icicle within Mah's very core (Wen).

Next awesome theory: be it Mah's own choice or the schemes of the other Elders, Mah had to leave her body carcass. As a result, we got a semi-sentient being called 'Mah', and the unnamed Sixth Elder God, the spirit of Mah, much like the encorporeal form of Zaros. If Seren and Zaros were so hard to get rid of, who said that the Elder Gods are that easy to pass or simply rot away? The incorporeal Mah could be the Zaros-like weakened version of herself, or the first god to attain a zero tier of godhood: the Elder God that needs neither anima nor the physical appearance to manifest itself. The theory is based on the fact that the chamber of Elder God beneath Lumbridge (from the infamous quest HeartOfStone) was not meant for Mah and appeared to be empty with no sapient -Kra. I wonder what or who could be seen there with ring of visibility...

Anyone in the mood to criticise these theories or present alternatives?

22-Nov-2016 17:29:43

Urban Rave

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The one thing that confused me, was the whole rejuvenation thing. To me, it seemed like a potential plot hole, because I thought it was already established in Nadir from Bilrach, that the portals of Daemonheim were a superior source of energy from the traditional sacrificial ritual, which is why he was fully fleshed despite not attending one for a long time.

Although, I suppose a reasonable explanation would be that the energy draining would be constant if the source wasn't dealt with, so as long as Mah lived, the problem would still persist. Nevertheless, it kind of makes me wonder if Jagex forgot about it, or if it's just something Bilrach and Moia are only aware of.

22-Nov-2016 23:58:58 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 00:00:03 by Urban Rave

The Mather1
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DuxBellorum said :
Lastly, the only order I can imagine Zaros giving Zamorak as his Legatus Maximus for some reason is.......

"Zamorak.......KILL the World Guardian."
That would not make sense. The largest player faction is Zaros', and this has got to be even more true among the player who will be doing Sliske's Endgame, and have actually learned who Zaros is.
The World Guardian is an important pawn for Zaros, they're someone he's respected since the first time Azzanadra mentioned them to him, and they're someone he understands has an uncanny ability to survive anything and overcome obstacles and enemies alike.

Not to mention we're literally allied with Death, who'll let us go back to our business after dying with just a slap on the wrist, Zaros probably knows that.
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23-Nov-2016 03:14:01 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 03:15:22 by The Mather1

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Urban Rave said :
The one thing that confused me, was the whole rejuvenation thing. To me, it seemed like a potential plot hole, because I thought it was already established in Nadir from Bilrach, that the portals of Daemonheim were a superior source of energy from the traditional sacrificial ritual, which is why he was fully fleshed despite not attending one for a long time.

Although, I suppose a reasonable explanation would be that the energy draining would be constant if the source wasn't dealt with, so as long as Mah lived, the problem would still persist. Nevertheless, it kind of makes me wonder if Jagex forgot about it, or if it's just something Bilrach and Moia are only aware of.


The portals also happened to be near a madness causing, reality bending rift.

23-Nov-2016 04:46:46

Motley

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Deux Faces said :
Cthris said :
Not going to use spoiler tags because if you don't want spoilers don't click on a thread with the title of the thing you don't want spoiled.


Azzandra's dialog seemed to me that he was suggesting he was on the brink of Godhood.

Also either Zemmy is an imposter or he has a dad who is an exact clone of him right down to the name . It also means that Seren is his mother... Kinda


Also, dialogue with one of the Zamorakian Mahjarrat (I think it was Bilrach, but can't remember) suggested that Azzanadra was someone to watch out for... that he was wielding the "power of madness" or something similar.

Just went to check, and there is unfortunately no post-quest dialogue with Azzanadra.


Bilrach claims Azzandra has power that comes from madness. Perhaps in his undying loyalty to Zaros.

Zamorak and Zaros both say during that quest that while all the mahjarrat gained power one of them more so than the other. I'm guessing its Azzandra and he's going to be Zaros' big trump card
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23-Nov-2016 05:26:45

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Motley said :
Zamorak and Zaros both say during that quest that while all the mahjarrat gained power one of them more so than the other. I'm guessing its Azzandra and he's going to be Zaros' big trump card


When did they say this?
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23-Nov-2016 05:31:29

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Hazeel said :
Motley said :
Zamorak and Zaros both say during that quest that while all the mahjarrat gained power one of them more so than the other. I'm guessing its Azzandra and he's going to be Zaros' big trump card


When did they say this?

Yeah I don't remember this. Zamorak just says that it's a big day for the Mahjarrat but he's worried about how he might've screwed himself with that oath. Zaros talks about Seren and how he feels kinda sad over Mah's death, but there's something in her that will help him.
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23-Nov-2016 05:53:47

Urban Rave

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Hguoh said :
Urban Rave said :
The one thing that confused me, was the whole rejuvenation thing. To me, it seemed like a potential plot hole, because I thought it was already established in Nadir from Bilrach, that the portals of Daemonheim were a superior source of energy from the traditional sacrificial ritual, which is why he was fully fleshed despite not attending one for a long time.

Although, I suppose a reasonable explanation would be that the energy draining would be constant if the source wasn't dealt with, so as long as Mah lived, the problem would still persist. Nevertheless, it kind of makes me wonder if Jagex forgot about it, or if it's just something Bilrach and Moia are only aware of.


The portals also happened to be near a madness causing, reality bending rift.


Bilrach handles it pretty well.. Well.. Sort of. Although, it did seem like Moia was almost consumed by the desire to absorb more of it, so there is probably some level of moderation and method to successfully absorbing the power without losing yourself.

Still, when compared to harvesting the energy of a dying god as old as the ages, which can conjure its nightmares into lethals forms, portals that can cause a little madness seems a little small in comparison.

23-Nov-2016 08:11:34 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 08:12:39 by Urban Rave

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23-Nov-2016 22:03:08

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