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Raleirosen

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Hguoh said :
New Domina just makes deportation an unfeasible option.

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That's kind of what I meant when I said that they could be natural predators of the Icyene (without the vampyres' ability to leave their prey alive after feeding). Sure they'd have established a natural equilibrium, but there is no possible way they could coexist without Icyene dying in order to feed the 'devils.'
My apologies, I must've glossed over your predator suggestion. Also, when I suggested mass deportation, I meant off the planet; not sure if that would be possible at the time, though. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

24-Jan-2017 00:11:03 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2017 00:12:42 by Raleirosen

NachtWeaver

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I'm convinced Saradomin represents how corruptible humanity is. I don't think the contradictions are bad lore writing, rather further evidence of Saradomin being a god of contradiction and self-rationalization. TFW You can't decide between support Zamorak or Zaros.

24-Jan-2017 00:12:08 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2017 00:12:39 by NachtWeaver

Hazeel

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Vardan said :
The Crown does lure the other gods, but given that Tuska was an anima eater, I don't think Saradomin himself would've been the one who leads her to planets. Otherwise why would she have missed New Dominia for all these years, and gone right to Gielinor?

Good question.

...understanding flooded through me as Skargaroth's blood covered my hands. I was drawn to isolated thoughts, while other details rushed by. But this I knew: there were artefacts, left by elders who came before. These items were conduits for their power, used to refine, to create on smaller scales, to create perfection. Twelve items, like the sword. A flash of recognition - one was worn by Saradomin: the blue giant. It had drawn Tuska and Skargaroth to our...my world. The crown located other artefacts, but it would - in turn - attract those who kept them.

But it's clear that Saradomin drew her to Naragun.

If I had to guess why Saradomin hasn't drawn Tuska to New Domina, I would say that perhaps Saradomin has to "activate" the crown to locate the artifacts. When it's activated, he gets a quick signal on where to find them, but when it's activated it also sends a signal to where the crown is. So, perhaps, Saradomin may be able to keep Tuska--and others--from finding him as long as he doesn't activate the crown. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

24-Jan-2017 00:44:22

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William Witt

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Hazeel said :
Is there really any room to theorize on Saradomin's actions on Naragun anymore? He made it clear: He was young, arrogant, and thought he had the right to rule...the Naragi disagreed and he attacked.

Going to note that Mod Osborne, alll the way back when the Tribute to Guthix was new (I believe in the weekly game update FAQ) actually outright said the naragi may have attacked first. That's not something they've really mentioned since (though other pieces of lore JMods like Raven said around the same time have found their way into more recent content), but if it *is* true they attacked first, there might still be room to wonder. Maybe Saradomin tried asserting his dominance and they fearfully lashed out, seeing him as a threat.

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24-Jan-2017 01:22:34

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SixOfOne

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Mewzard said :
SixOfOne said :
It's not that weird considering Sara does generally want to protect people. It is his fault though and the fact that he considers his aims to be more important than the innocents who will die because of them gives additional depth to his character.

That said, he doesn't want people to die for nothing, which is no doubt why his mistakes in Naragun costing the Naragi so dearly still haunt him. Had it worked out for the better, he might have come out accepting what happened. But the fact that Naragun fell meant it was a high cost paid with no good coming from it. Had the Icyene died after what Saradomin did to unite them, he would have probably been completely disgusted with himself (probably still is to some degree, but it would be without any sort of justification).

Definitely. If the Icyene were wiped out in that situation, that Saradomin would probably be very different to the one we know in-game. Most likely to either extreme repentance and sorrow, or much less accepting and more ruthless. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes

24-Jan-2017 01:26:34

CD_Paladin_C

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Hazeel said :
Vardan said :
The Crown does lure the other gods, but given that Tuska was an anima eater, I don't think Saradomin himself would've been the one who leads her to planets. Otherwise why would she have missed New Dominia for all these years, and gone right to Gielinor?

Good question.

...understanding flooded through me as Skargaroth's blood covered my hands. I was drawn to isolated thoughts, while other details rushed by. But this I knew: there were artefacts, left by elders who came before. These items were conduits for their power, used to refine, to create on smaller scales, to create perfection. Twelve items, like the sword. A flash of recognition - one was worn by Saradomin: the blue giant. It had drawn Tuska and Skargaroth to our...my world. The crown located other artefacts, but it would - in turn - attract those who kept them.

But it's clear that Saradomin drew her to Naragun.

If I had to guess why Saradomin hasn't drawn Tuska to New Domina, I would say that perhaps Saradomin has to "activate" the crown to locate the artifacts. When it's activated, he gets a quick signal on where to find them, but when it's activated it also sends a signal to where the crown is. So, perhaps, Saradomin may be able to keep Tuska--and others--from finding him as long as he doesn't activate the crown.

I like to think that the Airut shaman has the codex. "Your god's dead next time he's in a world event. "
-The Lore Community to our Saradominist Friends, Said During World Event 2, Proven During World Event 3.

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24-Jan-2017 03:53:01

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Mewzard

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CD_Paladin_C said :
I like to think that the Airut shaman has the codex.

Well, for them to follow Saradomin, they would have to have had an artifact. Unless Guthix was just speculating on Tuska's end, she had to follow it somehow, and only another Elder Artifact works.

24-Jan-2017 04:06:07

Vardan

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Hazeel said :
Vardan said :
The Crown does lure the other gods, but given that Tuska was an anima eater, I don't think Saradomin himself would've been the one who leads her to planets. Otherwise why would she have missed New Dominia for all these years, and gone right to Gielinor?

Good question.

...understanding flooded through me as Skargaroth's blood covered my hands. I was drawn to isolated thoughts, while other details rushed by. But this I knew: there were artefacts, left by elders who came before. These items were conduits for their power, used to refine, to create on smaller scales, to create perfection. Twelve items, like the sword. A flash of recognition - one was worn by Saradomin: the blue giant. It had drawn Tuska and Skargaroth to our...my world. The crown located other artefacts, but it would - in turn - attract those who kept them.

But it's clear that Saradomin drew her to Naragun.

If I had to guess why Saradomin hasn't drawn Tuska to New Domina, I would say that perhaps Saradomin has to "activate" the crown to locate the artifacts. When it's activated, he gets a quick signal on where to find them, but when it's activated it also sends a signal to where the crown is. So, perhaps, Saradomin may be able to keep Tuska--and others--from finding him as long as he doesn't activate the crown.
You know I asked the JMods during a Q&A about whether the Crown was like a Lantern (you "light" it by putting it on and it stays "lit" i.e. feeding you info about the other artifacts while letting everyone else know where you are continuously for as long as it's on), or whether it's like a flare gun, i.e. you have to activate it to know where the artifacts are, but once you do everyone can see you.

Can't remember the answer but it looks like the flare gun interpretation is the correct one. Wonder if the Crown lets you know that anyone else can see you when you use it?

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24-Jan-2017 04:09:29

Vardan

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Mewzard said :
CD_Paladin_C said :
I like to think that the Airut shaman has the codex.

Well, for them to follow Saradomin, they would have to have had an artifact. Unless Guthix was just speculating on Tuska's end, she had to follow it somehow, and only another Elder Artifact works.
Tuska was a god that ascended by killing another god I think. Even demigods are able to open portals to the other side of the universe, so I don't think they'd need an artifact to world hop once they'd hitched a ride on Tuska.

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24-Jan-2017 04:11:16

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Mewzard

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Vardan said :
Tuska was a god that ascended by killing another god I think. Even demigods are able to open portals to the other side of the universe, so I don't think they'd need an artifact to world hop once they'd hitched a ride on Tuska.

No, I mean you need an artifact to track the wielder of the Crown Archival. It doesn't tell everyone where you are, just the possessors of Artifacts. If Tuska didn't have an artifact (or one of her Shamans), then she couldn't follow that trail.

24-Jan-2017 04:21:19

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