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Raleirosen

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Cthris said :
1) Words are constructs created by a dynamic society, and by nature are dynamic as well. The meanings and situational use are not concrete. That being said, I will admit that I did not use the most correct word in my sentence.

3) Sorry, what I should have said was "Your perception of lameness that is relative to you isn't an indicator of validity." Personally I think it has the capacity to be pretty cool, but whatever.
Fair enough, to both points.

Cthris said :
You have to remember that this came out in 2009. I doubt that Jagex had formulated Zaro's philosophy enough yet to call him the god of fate. Mah, I doubt was even a conceived idea at the time. Zaros and Seren being connected almost for sure not a thing back then because in one of the above the lore podcasts they mentioned there being only one god who was born a god, and said that Seren was a weird ascended crystal thing.

Now of course its possible in the future that Jagex could re-interpret the text and fit in the story, but it seems like Mod Wilson is not making things up as he goes along.

That being said, I wouldn't say this means that the tablet is not connected to Xau-Tak. The the 3 Dag kings came out in 2005 when Mod Wilson started his hint dropping. I just doubt that Zaros, Seren and Mah have anything to do with it.

Though the part about fate not dictating is kind of funny. Isn't that exactly what a prophesy is.
People constantly underestimate how forward-thinking massively multiplayer game devs are. I recall in one of their anniversary behind the scenes videos them saying that they plan story content up to 5 years in advance. But even if it's a total coincidence, the parallels in the prophecy are way too strong to not adapt to the current Sixth Age storylines.

I recall Zaros being aligned with Fate/Control many years ago... can't find any proof of it though. Ah well. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

14-Jul-2016 05:14:56

Hguoh

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Raleirosen said :
wait a sec

Has anyone actually looked at the Fremmy prophecy in the context of Xau-Tak?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"All-consuming darkness will rise from the sea, unleashed by Good Intent.
The lost Mother is dead, her Daughter risen in her place.
Wits and Skills will bring the Light; fate does not dictate.
When the tide is strongest, Good Intent will be needed once more.
And his/her name will be [Fremennik name]."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

All-consuming darkness, from the sea? That's gotta be Xau-Tak.

And it's going to be unleashed by Good Intent, capitalized? Could be the player, as per the last passage. Makes me think of Saradomin too, though.

Lost Mother? Mah. Daughter? Seren.

Fate does not dictate? Zaros' plan is gonna ***** up somehow.

And the last lines imply we're going to be instrumental in stopping Xau-Tak.

It's the Dagganoth. The Dagganoth Mother was killed by the player in an attempt to do good, and another rose to take her place and led an assault on the Fremmenik.

That's your darkness from the sea (Dagganoth), unleashed by good intent (the player in Horror from the Deep), the dead mother (the original Mother), and the risen daughter (the second Mother).

Wits and Skills will bring the light? Rescuing King Vargas (the light) and escaping through Waterbirth Island (Wits and Skills).

Fate will not dictate? Our death and actually having passed to the afterlife (fate), but subsequent return to life (not dictate).

When the tide is strongest? The Dagganoth's assault.

Good intent will be needed once more? The player dealing with the Dagganoth Mother properly this time.

And I think you can figure out the last bit. They kinda explain some of the prophecy during Blood Runs Deep, and how it refers to the Dagganoth.

14-Jul-2016 05:15:40 - Last edited on 14-Jul-2016 05:15:54 by Hguoh

Sepulchre
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Poor poor Kastor. Underestimating the power of the God of Horrors. It's a shame really, such a fine mind to be thrown away by underestimating an opponent of obviously massive power.

Do you really think you can save them, Kastor? You can't. There is an impatient hell that knows your name. And this is Xau-Tak.
A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

14-Jul-2016 06:34:04

Wahisietel
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I kind of hope that Jagex will tie the Dagannoth, Sea Slugs and Crassians into Xau-Tak, since they're all Lovecraftian sea creatures. But until they do (besides the very minor Sea Slug involvement in Rum Deal), I don't think it's worth speculating over. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

14-Jul-2016 11:39:32

Zulkir

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Raleirosen said :
wait a sec

Has anyone actually looked at the Fremmy prophecy in the context of Xau-Tak?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"All-consuming darkness will rise from the sea, unleashed by GoodIntent.
The lost Mother is dead, her Daughter risen in her place.
Wits and Skills will bring the Light; fate does not dictate.
When the tide is strongest, GoodIntent will be needed once more.
And his name will be Lethalintent."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I always knew I'd be the one to unleash a Lovecraftian horror.
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14-Jul-2016 11:43:08 - Last edited on 14-Jul-2016 11:44:27 by Zulkir

Hguoh

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Raleirosen said :
Hguoh said :
It's the Dagganoth.
Yes yes, I know that's what it was originally referring to. But come on; would you really describe the dagannoth as "all-consuming darkness"?

When their modus operandi is to either eat or destroy everything? Yes, yes I would.

14-Jul-2016 22:38:44

Raleirosen

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Hguoh said :
When their modus operandi is to either eat or destroy everything? Yes, yes I would.
In retrospect I just don't think the events of the Fremmenik series to be very worthy of prophecy. Xau-Tak will probably dwarf the threat of the dagannoth in every way.

Anyway, I suppose we shall see. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

15-Jul-2016 06:29:27

Sepulchre
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Raleirosen said :
Hguoh said :
When their modus operandi is to either eat or destroy everything? Yes, yes I would.
In retrospect I just don't think the events of the Fremmenik series to be very worthy of prophecy . Xau-Tak will probably dwarf the threat of the dagannoth in every way.

Anyway, I suppose we shall see. Well, to a Fremennik, the Fremennik series would be very worthy of Prophecy.
And since the Prophecy was made by a Fremennik.. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

15-Jul-2016 06:48:03

Wahisietel
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Stuff that I should probably add to the thread but am too busy procrastinating to actually add them:

*Info we learned from Kindred Spirits
*The theorised battle between Xau-Tak and Bandos, that ended with the former trapped in/retreating to the Underwater City.
*Gentleman Mallard's disappearance at the tentacles of a gigantic sea creature.
*Possibly stuff from the Arc. At the very least we'll probably be able to conclusively rule out it being the Cursed Archipelago. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

16-Jul-2016 10:52:36 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2016 10:53:07 by Wahisietel

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