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Bonzara

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Raleirosen said :
@Bonzara
Retreading the Seren/Dark Lord spiel with an anti-Guthix would be catastrophically tedious. Hell, they didn't even manage to make it interesting with Seren in my opinion.

Besides, Guthix is a dead horse. Far better for Xau-Tak to be something new (and hopefully interesting).

You do have a point there.

That being said, I still like the idea of Xau-Tak as a god of imbalance and unnatural things. He could still be the metaphorical "opposite" of Guthix without being directly related to him by origin. Sort of like how Saradomin and Zamorak were commonly held up as opposites despite having different origins.

Also keep in mind that Mod Wilson supposedly came up with the idea for Xau-Tak long before Guthix got killed off.

I could imagine, for example, a group of heretical druids who come to believe that balance cannot exist without imbalance to compare it to, and that imbalance is therefore a higher state of being. Thus, they turn from their Guthixian path to pursue a state of un-balance and un-nature, and in the process, they discover Xau-Tak and decide he represents everything they aspire to. Gradually their mental states become imbalanced as well and they become the Mad Druids. (This is actually starting to sound a lot like Abdul Alhazred. Given the Lovecraftian overtones of the whole Xau-Tak storyline, it wouldn't surprise me if Mod Wilson decides to put something like this in there). Are you ready to enter the Mind of Rutha?

25-May-2016 21:20:54 - Last edited on 25-May-2016 21:22:04 by Bonzara

Sepulchre
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Raleirosen said :
@Bonzara
Retreading the Seren/Dark Lord spiel with an anti-Guthix would be catastrophically tedious. Hell, they didn't even manage to make it interesting with Seren in my opinion.

Besides, Guthix is a dead horse. Far better for Xau-Tak to be something new (and hopefully interesting).
Do you really think you can save them, Raleirosen? You can't. There is a dark shadow looming over you every waking moment. And this is Xau-Tak.
A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

26-May-2016 06:30:07

Sepulchre
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Bonzara said :
Raleirosen said :
@Bonzara
Retreading the Seren/Dark Lord spiel with an anti-Guthix would be catastrophically tedious. Hell, they didn't even manage to make it interesting with Seren in my opinion.

Besides, Guthix is a dead horse. Far better for Xau-Tak to be something new (and hopefully interesting).

You do have a point there.

That being said, I still like the idea of Xau-Tak as a god of imbalance and unnatural things. He could still be the metaphorical "opposite" of Guthix without being directly related to him by origin. Sort of like how Saradomin and Zamorak were commonly held up as opposites despite having different origins.

Also keep in mind that Mod Wilson supposedly came up with the idea for Xau-Tak long before Guthix got killed off.

I could imagine, for example, a group of heretical druids who come to believe that balance cannot exist without imbalance to compare it to, and that imbalance is therefore a higher state of being. Thus, they turn from their Guthixian path to pursue a state of un-balance and un-nature, and in the process, they discover Xau-Tak and decide he represents everything they aspire to. Gradually their mental states become imbalanced as well and they become the Mad Druids. (This is actually starting to sound a lot like Abdul Alhazred. Given the Lovecraftian overtones of the whole Xau-Tak storyline, it wouldn't surprise me if Mod Wilson decides to put something like this in there). The idea that Balance can't exist without imbalance is basically the idea of Balance.. it's a balance of balance. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

26-May-2016 06:30:52

Kanarthasis
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"So lets start with the first sentence: What carves its hate upon the monolith?
What monolith? Why does Xau-Tak hate said monolith? was it made by the Elder Gods? What is its purpose? Is this some kind of supreme elder artifact? Where does it recide currently?"

The Monolith is probably Gielinor. Considering it is a large stone, or earth of land that is slow to change, possibly in Xau-Tak's eyes. It seems quite possible if it is similar to WoW's Old Gods, specifically N'zoth, and it seeks to wreak havoc on everything alive, whislt enslaving fanatics to entertain it in service of its will.

26-May-2016 06:34:12

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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Kanarthasis said :
"So lets start with the first sentence: What carves its hate upon the monolith?
What monolith? Why does Xau-Tak hate said monolith? was it made by the Elder Gods? What is its purpose? Is this some kind of supreme elder artifact? Where does it recide currently?"

The Monolith is probably Gielinor. Considering it is a large stone, or earth of land that is slow to change, possibly in Xau-Tak's eyes. It seems quite possible if it is similar to WoW's Old Gods, specifically N'zoth, and it seeks to wreak havoc on everything alive, whislt enslaving fanatics to entertain it in service of its will. I think you're reading into it wrong. when it says
"What carves its hate upon the monolith?"
I don't think Xau-Tak actually hates a monolith. I think it's more a metaphor. Perhaps there is a piece of Xau-Tak's essence upon a monolith, or there is a monolith created by him for his followers to worship. It's like saying "Zamorak left his mark on the continent of Forinthry." He didn't actually leave his symbol there, he just caused such vast destruction, that people will always remember his name when they think of the Wilderness. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

26-May-2016 07:07:44

Trib
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Sepulchre said :
Kanarthasis said :
"So lets start with the first sentence: What carves its hate upon the monolith?
What monolith? Why does Xau-Tak hate said monolith? was it made by the Elder Gods? What is its purpose? Is this some kind of supreme elder artifact? Where does it recide currently?"

The Monolith is probably Gielinor. Considering it is a large stone, or earth of land that is slow to change, possibly in Xau-Tak's eyes. It seems quite possible if it is similar to WoW's Old Gods, specifically N'zoth, and it seeks to wreak havoc on everything alive, whislt enslaving fanatics to entertain it in service of its will. I think you're reading into it wrong. when it says
"What carves its hate upon the monolith?"
I don't think Xau-Tak actually hates a monolith. I think it's more a metaphor. Perhaps there is a piece of Xau-Tak's essence upon a monolith, or there is a monolith created by him for his followers to worship. It's like saying "Zamorak left his mark on the continent of Forinthry." He didn't actually leave his symbol there, he just caused such vast destruction, that people will always remember his name when they think of the Wilderness.

Not to say everyone is reading too far into it, but the monolith is probably the black stone on Mos Le Harmless with the Black Mask carved into it.

26-May-2016 07:12:56

Trib
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Trib

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Sepulchre said :
Raleirosen said :
@Bonzara
Retreading the Seren/Dark Lord spiel with an anti-Guthix would be catastrophically tedious. Hell, they didn't even manage to make it interesting with Seren in my opinion.

Besides, Guthix is a dead horse. Far better for Xau-Tak to be something new (and hopefully interesting).
Do you really think you can save them, Raleirosen? You can't. There is a dark shadow looming over you every waking moment. And this is Xau-Tak.


Is this a quote from the Dark Lord applied to Xau Tak? Also, I wonder why more of us aren't pushing the fact that there is apparently a LIST of undiscovered dialogue relating to Xau Tak, with at least one mentioning him explicity. Check the link, it's actually a conversation between him and Sepulchre:

http://services.runescape.***/*=forum/forums***?341,342,506,65713475,&showuser=Mod%A0Wilson

26-May-2016 07:16:30 - Last edited on 26-May-2016 07:18:50 by Trib

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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Trib said :
Sepulchre said :
Raleirosen said :
@Bonzara
Retreading the Seren/Dark Lord spiel with an anti-Guthix would be catastrophically tedious. Hell, they didn't even manage to make it interesting with Seren in my opinion.

Besides, Guthix is a dead horse. Far better for Xau-Tak to be something new (and hopefully interesting).
Do you really think you can save them, Raleirosen? You can't. There is a dark shadow looming over you every waking moment. And this is Xau-Tak.


Is this a quote from the Dark Lord applied to Xau Tak? Also, I wonder why more of us aren't pushing the fact that there is apparently a LIST of undiscovered dialogue relating to Xau Tak, with at least one mentioning him explicity. Check the link, it's actually a conversation between him and Sepulchre:

http://services.runescape.***/*=forum/forums***?341,342,506,65713475,&showuser=Mod%A0Wilson I know, I was there. Also no, that was just me being creepy.
I'm very interested in finding these other hidden lines. That means replaying content by Mod Wilson is a must for my newb account. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

26-May-2016 07:34:30

Sepulchre
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Sepulchre

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Trib said :
Sepulchre said :
Kanarthasis said :
"So lets start with the first sentence: What carves its hate upon the monolith?
What monolith? Why does Xau-Tak hate said monolith? was it made by the Elder Gods? What is its purpose? Is this some kind of supreme elder artifact? Where does it recide currently?"

The Monolith is probably Gielinor. Considering it is a large stone, or earth of land that is slow to change, possibly in Xau-Tak's eyes. It seems quite possible if it is similar to WoW's Old Gods, specifically N'zoth, and it seeks to wreak havoc on everything alive, whislt enslaving fanatics to entertain it in service of its will. I think you're reading into it wrong. when it says
"What carves its hate upon the monolith?"
I don't think Xau-Tak actually hates a monolith. I think it's more a metaphor. Perhaps there is a piece of Xau-Tak's essence upon a monolith, or there is a monolith created by him for his followers to worship. It's like saying "Zamorak left his mark on the continent of Forinthry." He didn't actually leave his symbol there, he just caused such vast destruction, that people will always remember his name when they think of the Wilderness.

Not to say everyone is reading too far into it, but the monolith is probably the black stone on Mos Le Harmless with the Black Mask carved into it. That actually was my theory about the quote Raven sent to me on Twitter.
There is an atrocity written in black stone. And this is Xau-Tak.

It's a black slab of stone, atrocity can be another word for Horror.. like cave horrors. A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

26-May-2016 07:35:49

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