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A Mad Hatter
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"We've already been underneath Castle Drakan when we discovered the blood altar and the accompanying coffins. Having said that, we took the route from the haemalchemy laboratory, yet Safalaan went towards the boat at the southern end of Meiyerditch at the end of BoD, suggesting that he went the opposite way. Hmm... "
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Yeah, that's sort of what I was thinking too. It could be possible that he went to a hidden vampyre safehouse or something around the coast and used a secret passage or portal or something to get into the castle, but that's really stretching things at this point in my eyes.

"But how does BoD tie in for the extra rewards? I see no vampyric influence on the quest in the slightest."
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Me neither, but maybe there's a hidden reward or something that nobody's found yet. It does seem sort of anticlimatic to have a myreque quest requirement (if only for a reward) and not have anything related to it doesn't it?

"I decided to go with Guthix in the end. How about you guys?"
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I originally went Zarosian because they seemed like the only ones with an actual plan beyond "kill it and anyone who gets in our way". But whether or not I stay on their side depends on how things play out from here >_>
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05-Mar-2013 07:22:00 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2013 07:24:56 by A Mad Hatter

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DoogleHallow - the reason for the BoD requirement was indeed for the Edicts. They're really important in the Myreque series and I figured it wouldn't make much sense to play the Myreque quests after playing The World Wakes. There are other quests that this would apply to, which weren't requirements, but the Myreque series seemed the most obvious. Also, I'm afraid I can't reveal anything about my next project!

05-Mar-2013 08:28:04

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While you are here thanks for my new favourite quest. I think the overall implications of the quest impress me most. Also you made Sliske seem like Sliske something ROTM failed at. You also explained quite a lot which is awesome.

I assume your answer your next project is not Myreque.

As for the conspirators perhaps they will turn on each other or try to create the illusion that the edicts remain in place so Misthalin does not attack. After all we could just go tell King Roald they are gone.
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05-Mar-2013 08:47:46

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There needed to be an option in the quest of:

"I want to wake Guthix and talk to It, but protect It at the same time."


Also curious as to how all those Gods followers believed they could just wander in and kill Guthix (remember none of them knew about the God-slayer, and I doubt they all had them). Guthix banished all their gods, what did they think they could do.

Why is Nex so 'feared by the Gods" if Saradomin can simply wave his hand, and teleport her and re-imprison her?

05-Mar-2013 17:37:36

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@Goldmage162 The Zarosians knew and the Zamorakians imo should have known. Then again no god has ever been killed by these races as far as we are aware. The Zarosians definately knew but they did not want to kill him mostly. The others were just arrogant and thought they could.

Remember Nex is weakened due to her long imprisonment.

@DoogleHallow I really hope it's Myreque kinda dying for one now. Especially if it's grandmaster.

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Saradomin is so much like how I thought he'd be. As for Zilyana what a great character and a devious Saradominist if ever I saw one.

I actually have an idea about changing the quest cape emote to something appropriate now.
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05-Mar-2013 19:35:49

A Mad Hatter
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"the reason for the BoD requirement was indeed for the Edicts. They're really important in the Myreque series and I figured it wouldn't make much sense to play the Myreque quests after playing The World Wakes. There are other quests that this would apply to, which weren't requirements, but the Myreque series seemed the most obvious."
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Then I'm confused. The way the quest announcement was worded led me to believe that the quest requirements were for the side rewards and therefore optional (meaning we could technically play the Myreque quests after The World Wakes). So why wasn't BoD just made a mandatory req if the edicts were central to the storyline?

Or am I misunderstanding something here? O_o


"As for the conspirators perhaps they will turn on each other or try to create the illusion that the edicts remain in place so Misthalin does not attack. After all we could just go tell King Roald they are gone."
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But why would Roald believe us? Unless we come up with some convincing proof, all it would really take to get him to back off (if what the last time we tried talking him into aid was anything to go by) is the religious advisor going "nah, the edicts are still in place" the next time we try getting help from the guy.
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05-Mar-2013 20:29:03

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Now that Saradomin and Zilyana are free and the Edicts are broken, a Saradominist move into Morytania and the overthrow of the entire Vampyre polity is plausible. Similarly, Zamorak could try to get Drakan back on-side and use Morytania as a base to move into the Saradominist heartlands of Misthalin and Asgarnia. Even if the mortal rulers are not pleased with the idea of war, how are they going to stop the gods from manipulating them?

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"Now that Saradomin and Zilyana are free and the Edicts are broken, a Saradominist move into Morytania and the overthrow of the entire Vampyre polity is plausible."
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I never said it wasn't plausible, just that it could be easy for the Saradominist that King Roald has on retainer to manipulate him because of his position as a religious advisor. Unless the death of a god is something that everyone feels somehow, I can easily see Roald being duped by the Saradominist church if he would prove to be someone that conflicts with their interests.

Really. Having Saradomin himself appear in the world could (maybe) easily be explained to someone who didn't know about the edicts/death in the first place by "guthix allowed him in to restore the balance". Especially if Zamorak or another god makes the first move and comes off as directly violating the whole deal...and nobody would probably be the wiser unless they keep tabs on what's going on in the entire world.

"Similarly, Zamorak could try to get Drakan back on-side and use Morytania as a base to move into the Saradominist heartlands of Misthalin and Asgarnia. Even if the mortal rulers are not pleased with the idea of war, how are they going to stop the gods from manipulating them?"
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Which brings us back to the issue of the salve, oddly enough. If gods can enter the world now, couldn't Saradomin just put something on the barrier to make it stronger than necessary to keep the vampyres in morytania?

Likewise, if Zamorak or another god with interest in the region pops up, can they undo the barrier just as easily?
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05-Mar-2013 23:20:30

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I'm not sure if this able to be discussed in this thread, but I will give a *SPOILER WARNING* for what I am about to say.

*SPOILER WARNING*











What does the return of Saradomin implicate for Morytania, his former holdings? (Hallow Vale) and its inhabitants?














END SPOILER.
Here, I'll give you this strawberry if you keep it a secret!

06-Mar-2013 07:59:16 - Last edited on 06-Mar-2013 08:00:52 by Orcrist9

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