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Solmestix
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What is stopping the new elder gods from being male?

The heir of jas could be anyone, the stone contains an unborn elder god, it needs a body, the body could be anyone but the elder would need to adapt to it's host if it wants to stay in the body, same with organ transplants, sometimes they do not work because the body reacts with the other DNA in the transplanted organ, the same is happening w/ the elder, it would need to mimic the host, otherwise it would not be able to, well, go *in* the host.

I used the transplant reference because now doctors use 3d printed organs w/ the person's DNA so it does not get rejected, the elder would need to in a way, become, that host.

06-Apr-2016 20:09:49

Sepulchre
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Well Stretch, my old friend, here we are on another discussion.

I'll throw this out there. Just because the Stone's story is ending, doesn't mean the Catalyst is going anywhere. Who's to say that The Stone is the only thing the Catalyst can be? Maybe the end of the Stone means the beginning of something new? Perhaps the cracks in the Stone mean it shall become something else? Not necessarily a living being, but perhaps a new form? A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

07-Apr-2016 09:08:14

Lady Icyene

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Dont bring cloning into this. I agree with you that the Stone will shatter, but DNA has nothing to do with it.
On a previous episode of my Forum show, Lore Theories, i mentioned what Zaros' future plans could be and how he would ascend to Elder godhood. He mentioned in Fate of The Gods before he puts his plans into action he would need to deal with the dragonkin, meaning The Stone of Jas is caught up in this. And the stone isnt an unborn elder god waiting to hatch its a hardboiled egg that Jas turned into a power source. And shattering it just might be Zaros' ticket to Elder godhood. The Sixth Elder God is obviously what ever Elder God The Stone of Jas was GOING to hatch into.

07-Apr-2016 13:37:06

Sepulchre
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Kikizosan said :
Lady Icyene said :
The Sixth Elder God is obviously what ever Elder God The Stone of Jas was GOING to hatch into.

From how I understand things, the Stone of Jas would have hatched into (the next cycle's) Jas.

People say this, and while it would make sense... it makes no sense at all. Why would Jas use up her own egg? It'd almost be like killing yourself. Besides, from my understanding, don't the Elder Gods revert to eggs then go through rebirth when the Great Revision takes place? There are not "other eggs," there's only the same ones going back to being eggs again? A
World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
in themselves.
Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate .

18-Apr-2016 05:17:38

Solmestix
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Sepulchre said :
Kikizosan said :
Lady Icyene said :
The Sixth Elder God is obviously what ever Elder God The Stone of Jas was GOING to hatch into.

From how I understand things, the Stone of Jas would have hatched into (the next cycle's) Jas.

People say this, and while it would make sense... it makes no sense at all. Why would Jas use up her own egg? It'd almost be like killing yourself. Besides, from my understanding, don't the Elder Gods revert to eggs then go through rebirth when the Great Revision takes place? There are not "other eggs," there's only the same ones going back to being eggs again?


No, by sacrificing her egg, she actually did kill herself, the elder gods power down and diminish and they then become part of the landscape, for example, Jas became the Ullek cliffs.
The 6th elder god might just be able to join with the catalyst again....perhaps Jas will not die after all?

24-Apr-2016 00:53:02

Solanumtinkr

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I'd think it more likely we get a new Elder. Which considering where they'd come from, begs the question of what they'd be like. They could be Mah's antithesis, so they'd encourage our development, rather than hinder it. Which could also put them at odds with the other Elders. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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24-Apr-2016 09:01:32 - Last edited on 24-Apr-2016 09:01:55 by Solanumtinkr

Kemtros
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The antithesis of Mah would be nice, especially since Jas is aligned with progression. Though being a direct opposite to Mah would probably be best explored either in Fate of the Gods 2, or if Zaros or Seren won.

24-Apr-2016 15:22:48

Solanumtinkr

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No matter how Zaros protests, he is more about control through logic and so more closely related to Mah. ironically so would Seren. Her control is more through emotion than logic in the form of innate devotion caused in others. With Mah it is more about control of the environment in the form of suppressing mortal consciousness. Which at a real stretch could be shown be related to both Zaros' and Seren's own.

While Mah maybe about potential, it seems to be more about control of that potential. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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24-Apr-2016 15:29:58

sTReTCh1028

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Zaros's comment that the sixth elder wasn't of substance but "of something else" leads me to believe that the Sixth is something akin to a force/spirit than a giant behemoth like the other elders. Perhaps there was a war/fight long ago that the Sixth lost with the other elders and was cursed to be forever reborn without a physical body. It stands to reason if Mah represents potential, the Sixth instead represents powerlessness. That doesn't mean the Sixth doesn't have influence, but means that -- without a physical form -- it cannot easily or directly influence *anything* that happens. Instead, the Sixth would need to manipulate and possess other entities into doing its bidding and use subterfuge, secrecy, and stealth among the universe's happenings to enact its plan. I like the possibility that the Sixth serves the same role as Apophis serves in Egyptian mythology...a malign force of entropy that works to bring about an end to order...perhaps the Zamorak that Zamorak only dreams of being, an Elder God of Chaos, of sorts. Because of there is to be an opposite to "potential", I can think of no better candidate than "chaos"...in chaos, potential loses its predictability, its rhyme, its reason for existing.

In this idea, I can see any permanent damage coming to the Stone, as by shattering, would dramatically shift the storyline of the Elder Gods into a full-blown war of survival. sTReTCh1028
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