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Balustan said :
Edit: As for whatever would destroy the Stone I don't think any item we've seen could do it. Sure using the Staff to do it might be quite good but I'm not sure it could. Same with the sword. Maybe the Mirror could?
I agree that simply trying to use brute force to destroy the Stone fo Jas is not going to work. Especially by using weapons powered by the SoJ to try and destroy itself.

You'd have to be sneaky, and it would have to be an Elder Artefact that predates the Stone of Jas. Only one artefact fits the bill, though on first examination it would look completely harmless.

The Measure.

I built a quest around the idea, At World's End. Where The Measure is retuned to find a very particular spot. The Stone of Jas and the Anima Mundi are similar enough that you should be able to use The Measure to catalyse a reaction at a wisp crater, and drain the Stone of Jas. Destroying it!

In that case it might very well shatter.
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14-Feb-2016 17:28:15 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2016 17:32:35 by Solanumtinkr

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Kemtros said :
I've put this theory out before, and while at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Jagex does something else (I prefer to keep an open mind), I'll go to the usual for me.

In the art for Sliske's Endgame, we see the hexagons of the Stone of Jas peeling off. Now, that could allude to the shards you've suggested, and I could see Sliske wanting to mix things up by making everyone a contestant. However, that sounds like something that would happen in the quest. It would be a part of Sliske's game. The game would only just be continuing, which goes against the idea that the quest is the end game.

I think the Stone is peeling for a different reason. It's not simply shattering. It's hatching. We know that the Stone of Jas is like a boiled egg. It's not sustainable for an Elder God. So I suspect that this entire contest is to ensure that it can be sustainable. Winning the contest doesn't just get you the Stone of Jas. There's an unborn Elder God that needs another chance at life. Whoever wins the contest will become a vessel for the unborn, the Elder God that could not reincarnate. The Heir of Jas.

There's another factor to the contest, one that I don't see come up as much: Sliske has a time limit. This isn't just that he's getting bored and wants to speed things up. As his ascension, Sliske alluded to an eclipse. He needs the contest to end during the eclipse. There's probably a better analogy for this, but think of it like how a power reaches its peak during a particular alignment of the stars, or to be more mundane, incubating an egg. The eclipse will be what causes the egg to hatch.

We know there are Stonetouchers, and the Dragonkin hunt the False Users. But when the Stone of Jas hatches, and the Heir of Jas is decided? We'll have seen the True User.


and guess who that vessel is gonna be, Zaros it makes sense he wants to be an elder god. plus i support it.
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14-Feb-2016 17:35:24

Solanumtinkr

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Balustan said :
It'd give the measure a good reason for existing I guess. I don't know the exact explanation for how it should neutralise the stone but I'd be up for it doing that.
The Stone of Jas is just a container, like a jug holds water, The Measure simply empties the jug.
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14-Feb-2016 19:44:54

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I like the Measure theory a lot.

After completing Nomad's Elegy, I can't help but to think that with shards of Jas littering the planet, there'll be MANY more instances of "Gielinor" with the shattered stone theory.
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18-Feb-2016 02:57:16

Kemtros
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YtHaar-Zuk said :
and guess who that vessel is gonna be, Zaros it makes sense he wants to be an elder god. plus i support it.


I could see Sliske stalling until the Stone is ready to use Zaros as a vessel, hence the game.

sTReTCh1028 said :
I like the Measure theory a lot.

After completing Nomad's Elegy, I can't help but to think that with shards of Jas littering the planet, there'll be MANY more instances of "Gielinor" with the shattered stone theory.


And now I remember that Solanumtinkr's At World's End idea actually works perfectly with this, since both that and this thread involve the Catalyst… transforming, in a way. As said, destroying the Stone could very well cause it to shatter. And I could see Sliske wanting to replicate the idea of Gielinor. He did take Nomad, after all, so maybe Sliske's plan could vary based on whether or not Nomad had the piece of the Stone of Jas? It'd be kind of annoying if the most that came of that choice is whether or not Nomad's Soul Blast is more powerful.

Solanumtinkr, apologies for missing this before, but I really like the detail that the Measure has an advantage because it's older than the Stone.

26-Feb-2016 05:12:55

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What exactly did Sliske say? Did you say he would give the Stone to the winner or did he say that the winner would get the Stone? It may seem like an unimportant difference but could play into the character of Sliske.

I mean if the Stone did shatter, people would fight over it and they could have Godly powers. Thus the entity that collected all of the pieces would have at the end in fact killed the most Gods. This would keep to Sliske's word that the winner would get the Stone, cause chaos like he would do, make everyone think one thing while meaning another.

26-Feb-2016 05:41:50

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Sliske: It's not so much a game - more survival of the fittest. There is only one rule, you see. It is only a matter of time until our moon - Zanaris - passes the sun, resulting in a total eclipse. Gielinor will be engulfed in shadow. It is at this exact moment the contest will end, and the winner will be the person who has killed the most gods.

Bandos: Haha! Finally you say something interesting!

Saradomin: Be quiet and let the intellectuals talk, you brute.

Armadyl: You truly have gone mad! Why would any of us listen to you?

Sliske: Because, Armadyl, there's a prize. Just one little prize that I think you might all be interested in. On the day at which the sun is eclipsed, someone will stand victorious with most of you defeated. And to that person I will gift... the Stone of Jas.


So it's not the situation you describe, since it's the first of the possibilities you mention. He's going to outright give them the Stone, rather than deciding the winner based on who recreates the Stone.

26-Feb-2016 16:00:43

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^ True, but he doesn't say he will give it to ONLY that person. It is plausible that he shatters the Stone, thereby giving it to everyone, including the winner. After all, why must we continue the charade of God gets the Stone, another God gets the Stone, etc. War that repeated ad naeseum in the Third Age? Mix things up, make things exciting, blow things wildly out of proportion, let people and gods lose their ever-loving minds, let Chaos reign...

And yes, I'm Zamorakian. (Although I think he'll die in FotG2, I think Chaos has a lot of sense and purpose.) And I think it's fitting that Zamorak dies. Sliske will rise as the new God of Chaos. He will be the Catalyst that Gielinor deserves.
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26-Feb-2016 23:41:20 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2016 23:42:03 by sTReTCh1028

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