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BerryPi
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I very strongly doubt Zaros will make Zamorak do anything fatal. If he does, Zammy has two options: Do what Zaros says and die, or don't do what Zaros says and die. He'd almost certainly prefer the latter, since it'd at least be one last 'screw you' to Zaros.

23-Nov-2016 02:43:50

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I simply think when the time comes Zaros will ask that Zamorak sacrifice himself. It's a binding pact that says he'll be undone if he doesn't keep his word so he's doomed either way now.
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23-Nov-2016 05:19:00

Dethal
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Motley said :
I simply think when the time comes Zaros will ask that Zamorak sacrifice himself. It's a binding pact that says he'll be undone if he doesn't keep his word so he's doomed either way now.


I can lend Zamorak 20k to buy a sign of life. That way he can die and come back.
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23-Nov-2016 05:30:37

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Motley said :
I simply think when the time comes Zaros will ask that Zamorak sacrifice himself. It's a binding pact that says he'll be undone if he doesn't keep his word so he's doomed either way now.

"Give me the Stone then kill yourself lol" - Zaros

Now that would start a real war lol.
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23-Nov-2016 06:04:43

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Vardan said :
Motley said :
I simply think when the time comes Zaros will ask that Zamorak sacrifice himself. It's a binding pact that says he'll be undone if he doesn't keep his word so he's doomed either way now.

"Give me the Stone then kill yourself lol" - Zaros

Now that would start a real war lol.


That's two things. He can only ask for one. But I suppose "kill yourself" would leave the stone for Zaros to take.
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23-Nov-2016 07:16:10

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Whatever it is, I doubt it'd involve Zamorak killing himself...otherwise he may as well just let the contract do the job for him. I do think it's going to be a huge stepping stone to him being an Elder God, but not enough to finish the plan. Zamorak would likely rather let the contract take its toll than let Zaros become and Elder. Zaros probably knows this and doesn't wanna put Zamorak in a situation where he's going to die and has nothing to lose by fighting Zaros until his last breath.

If it is something bad for Zamorak, then it will likely be something that isn't worth dying for. That said, I believe it was suggested by someone (Azzanadra) that it may be used to change Zamorak's tendencies, so it might even be something that benefits Zamorak...but I doubt this. The only reason Zaros would do this is to put Zamorak on his side. He knows better than to think Zamorak would be subserviant, and I doubt he'd be OK with having Zamorak as an equal either.
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23-Nov-2016 08:21:17

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I don't think Zaros wants to antagonise anyone at this point, unless it's the final stepping stone to becoming an Elder God. That means it'll most likely not be directly harmful to Zamorak or his followers; at most, it'll be something like forcing Zamorak to abstain from becoming more powerful.

Knowing Zaros, it will not be something that contains a lot of unknowns, e.g. it will not rely on the assumption that any other gods are alive or dead by the time of the endgame. It will also not be something truly instrumental to Zaros's plan; there is, after all, still a very real possibility that Zamork dies before the endgame, or to lesser extent even the possibility that he will break the pact purely out of spite. Zaros will almost certainly have taken all of those factors into account.

Of course, given those factors, I have no clue what it could *actually* be that Zaros wants from Zamorak. :p
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23-Nov-2016 09:12:01

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It's not going to be "Kill yourself". That's a waste of a command, Zaros could just ask the impossible and by the terms of the contract if it isn't fulfilled Zamorak would be undone.

I'm personally going with it'll be something simple, Like Stand down, or provide me back up, something Zamorak would rather not do, but not a gasp shock Zaros how could you order such a thing moment.

Just another reason to look forward to Endgame ;)

Although Zaros has always been a sensitive issue for some, in everything he does he always tends to cause the little ones to have a very big fit.
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23-Nov-2016 09:31:52 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 09:36:49 by Zulkir

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Kemtros said :
Cthris said :
Haha Kemtros, promise me you never will become a lawyer okay, or try making a deal with the devil because you would be royally screwed :P


No need to be condescending.

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The clause was "if you work against the contract you die" not "If you don't hold up your side of the bargain you don't die"

You can't just assume that the two are univocal clauses. It doesn't matter if Zaros holds up his side of the agreement. All the matters is if someone works against the contract which is an ambiguous term thus leading to the possibility that Zaros is not safe.


Do you have the exact quote? When did either of them outright say "If you work against the contract, that is a violation of your end of the bargain"? The idea is that Zamorak has to perform a single action. Now, if Zaros tried to make that be multiple actions, I could see that being a violation, but we were talking about Zaros requesting an impossible action being a violation of the contract, but whether or not the action is possible is still not an issue. Zaros only agreed to the idea that Zamorak must perform an action for him. There was nothing about that action being impossible, so again, if Zaros requests something that Zamorak cannot do, then Zamorak fails. It only means that he failed to uphold the end of the contract. Zaros certainly would have rigged the contract and doom Zamorak to failure, but it still would not be a violation of that contract.
If this happened wouldn't it basically test Zamorak's "strength in chaos" virtue to the limits? And if he can really overcome it infact through + knowing that? With a dramatic adrenaline pumped rush to get it done no matter what before the time is up?

23-Nov-2016 11:17:03 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2016 11:24:27 by Padomenes

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