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Baxtorian
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Amascut, it's not the Kiln but the TokHaar. I'm tired of telling everyone that lol.

And there's some horn that's been on Gielinor.

I however don't like how the elder artefacts are laid out.

I can understand the stone, most powerful thing etc etc. However, now what we have on the same level as it is a bunch of golems, which use just their strength to move rocks, a horn which does nothing on its own(assuming it's that horn; can't recall other important ones though) and a sword that was shattered. And the sword doesn't seem to have been broken by hitting a god but by mere age. Guthix was gripping it after killing Skargaroth.

At least the Staff makes some sense lol.

Anyway, we have 6. Crown, Stone, Staff, TokHaar, Horn(assume Frosten), Sword. We're missing a range weapon, make that 7. What about the remaining 5? Assuming the range one is right.

13-Mar-2013 00:31:20

Balustan

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Actually the kiln and the TokHaar are one. I also asked about it in the FAQ as there's something odd with it now.

The edicts sword is not an artefact.

As for the frostenhorn it amplifies power which according to the memories they were essentially used to aid their power usage. They were never meant to be used without a user.
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13-Mar-2013 09:02:41

RelmKisaragi

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Yeah, the Kiln and TokHaar are one. The Elder Kiln IS an Elder Artifact, and since the TokHaar are considered one with the Kiln, then they themselves can technically be considered an Elder Artifact as well. But really, its more specifically the Kiln itself that's the real Elder Artifact.

Here are the known artifcats:

Stone of Jas (gives great power; guarded by Dragonkin)
Staff of Armadyl (adopted by Armadyl)
Crown of Saradomin (adopted by Saradomin)
Sword of Guthix (name not known, sword used by Guthix to slay Skargoroth)
Frostenhorn (speculative, but mostlikely the case; amplifies power)
The Elder Kiln (creates life; one with TokHaar)

The Elder Kiln created the TokHaar, and they are considered to be the "Elder Artifact." Honestly, I'm starting to deny this notion. If anything, they are the Elder Kiln's version of the Dragonkin. In fact, that's an excellent comparison; the Dragonkin are also essentially immortal and incapable of reproducing. The Dragonkin are ALSO said to be "one with the stone."

If the TokHaar are an Elder Artifact, then so are the Dragonkin. So that's why I'm starting to deny this notion. The TokHaar may be one with the Kiln, but that doesn't make them an Elder Artifact. Its the Kiln itself, and they simply carry out its will, as the Dragonkin do with the Stone of Jas.

Undoubtedly we'll start to see more of the TokHaar in the future as Gods try to utilize the power of the Elder Kiln.

13-Mar-2013 09:39:16

Balustan

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The staff intrigues me most. If it was on Gielinor and Githix and Seren were first to arrive did Armadyl gain his god hood on Gielinor? Therefore why was he not banished by Saradomin etc?
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13-Mar-2013 10:12:17

Baxtorian
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If the TokHaar are an Elder Artifact, then so are the Dragonkin. So that's why I'm starting to deny this notion. The TokHaar may be one with the Kiln, but that doesn't make them an Elder Artifact. Its the Kiln itself, and they simply carry out its will, as the Dragonkin do with the Stone of Jas.
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Speak with Hok. TokHaar are an artefact, they're what built the mountains.

As it's not the Kin that dunno, created magic(?) but the stone.

13-Mar-2013 11:47:24

Deejay Pwn-3
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So if I'm interpreting the memories correctly, there are 12 artefacts, and we know 5 of them. The Frostenhorn (or whatever it's called), the Staff of Armadyl, Skargaroth's Sword, the Stone of Jas, and Saradomin's Crown. Or 6 if the Tokhaar are indeed an artefact.

13-Mar-2013 11:55:06 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2013 11:55:58 by Deejay Pwn-3

Panthers493

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-- SPOILERS IN THIS POST -- (Guthix memories will be spoiled if read. Minor TWW spoilers.)











Alright, you've been warned that I am about to give spoilers here. It is likely that someone already mentioned this, I just read your first post and assume that you still don't know this information because it hasn't been updated.

Guthix says that there are twelve elder items total, of which we know of more than two.

- The weapon Guthix wielded against a god while a mortal (A broken sword, seen at the beginning of TWW)
- The Stone of Jas. (According to the timeline, this is currently hidden by the dragonkin.)
- The Staff of Armadyl(sp) (Broken, but repaired and in the hands of a Zarosian mahjarrat. Unknown if it retains elder powers after its initial destruction)
- One worn around Saradomin's neck. (Guthix mentions this one in one of his memories. It does not have a name. The Stone of Jas is too large to be this artifact.)
- The Elder Kiln
- A horn (Mentioned by Guthix. He states that he found three elder weapons on arrival to our world: a staff, a stone, and a horn. The first two we know are the staff of armadyl and the Stone of Jas. The latter is unknown. I don't think the Elder Kiln was mentioned here because he either didn't find it on arrival or he didn't hide it, and thus didn't include it into his list.) -- This horn might be the horn used in Temple of Sennisten(sp, not good at spelling these weird names.)

That's all I can think of as for the confirmed elder weapons right now. That is half of them. In addition, all of these are currently on our world.

There are six left for us to discover.

13-Mar-2013 13:40:53

Balustan

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Doesn't the sea singer Quin also have a horn of some kind? Could it not be that?

Indeed it could be that or that could be the frostenhorn somehow.

Well maybe 7 or 8 or even 9. For all we know atm there could be 2 staffs an undiscovered horn and we do not 100% know the kiln counts as one of the 12. Hope we find out more soon.

As I said I need to update the thread.
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13-Mar-2013 14:34:56

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