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Raxxess

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Hazeel said :
Raxxess said :
His followers could have surrendered

And end up like the Zarosians.

Raxxess said :
we have the cutscene they did try to talk to him.

Is THAT what you think Saradomin was doing? XD

Most Zarosians didn't surrender though they just kept fighting. And the whole conversion thing how do we know they were really even Zarosians if just being by Zaros compelled them to follow him? Maybe as soon as he left they started seeing Saradomin as a better alternative since it was an empire where humans weren't second class citizens and not eaten by demons.

Armadyl was trying to talk to him. I imagine Saradomin just lost his patience with Zamorak because Zamorak always choose violence any chance he had, and Saradomin was pretty right in saying that they can't trust Zamorak with the stone cause you know the whole Kaboom thing.

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08-Apr-2016 21:00:51

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2012

Giras

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Raxxess said :
Hazeel said :
Raxxess said :
His followers could have surrendered

And end up like the Zarosians.

Raxxess said :
we have the cutscene they did try to talk to him.

Is THAT what you think Saradomin was doing? XD

Most Zarosians didn't surrender though they just kept fighting. And the whole conversion thing how do we know they were really even Zarosians if just being by Zaros compelled them to follow him? Maybe as soon as he left they started seeing Saradomin as a better alternative since it was an empire where humans weren't second class citizens and not eaten by demons.

Armadyl was trying to talk to him. I imagine Saradomin just lost his patience with Zamorak because Zamorak always choose violence any chance he had, and Saradomin was pretty right in saying that they can't trust Zamorak with the stone cause you know the whole Kaboom thing.
Lol no, MOST Zarosians switched over to Zamorak as their liberator! However due to Saradomin's treachery they were once again forced into situations of second class citizenship due to his smear campaigns.

You imagine? Well you're wrong. What happened was Saradomin was there to gloat while Zamorak tried to reason. Remember, the whole god wars was Saradomin's fault because he betrayed Zamorak and tried to take all power for himself. Zamorak saw that Saradomin was absolute in his greed and desire for control and tried to take out all the tyrants in one go along with himself so that "

the people of the world would be free. Free to fall and grow, to fail and rebuild

."

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08-Apr-2016 21:10:50

Solanumtinkr

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The whole kaboom thing came about because Saradomin pushed him into it. Yes, Zamorak had the stone. Yes Zamorak tried to use it "to take them with him". But at the end of the day Saradomin went straight for a kill, and didn't seem to give a second thought to what someone with the equivalent of a reusable nuclear arsenal would do when they were going to die any way.

Funny how things work out, by trying to blow everyone off of the face of Gielinor, Guthix banished them all, and so Zamorak survived the fate Saradomin intended to met out. And don't forget by this point, Saradomin has stabbed Armadyl in the back for the Godsword, even though a little help would have ensured it came to him anyway, That's not shooting yourself in the foot, it's blowing your leg clean off. Yes, yes, yes, it was his minion doing the dirty work, but he also lent help to try and kill them all in the form of amulets. As I said, the whole leg. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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08-Apr-2016 21:13:59 - Last edited on 08-Apr-2016 21:44:21 by Solanumtinkr

Hazeel

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Raxxess said :
Maybe as soon as he left they started seeing Saradomin as a better alternative since it was an empire where humans weren't second class citizens and not eaten by demons.

Sounds likely. I'm sure they wept tears of joy as Saradomin came to put them out of their misery and kill them all.

Raxxess said :
Armadyl was trying to talk to him.

Zamorak: Conflict would be inevitable, of course, but the people of the world would be free. Free to fall and grow, to fail and rebuild-

Saradomin: MADNESS!

Bandos: In another time we might have seen eye-to-eye, Zamorak. I might have even let you fight for me.

Zamorak: Surely you can see the value of my words, Bandos.

Bandos: They are just words, empty promises and idle chatter. You are a blight that must be eradicated.

Zamorak: Armadyl? Please...

Armadyl: I am sorry, Zamorak. I cannot allow chaos to engulf this world.

Saradomin: The time has come for you to meet your end, usurper.

Yeah, he was trying really hard. XD

Raxxess said :
I imagine Saradomin just lost his patience with Zamorak because Zamorak always choose violence any chance he had.

Yeah, after Saradomin lead the genocide against the Zarosians while Zamorak was gone, and eventually teamed up with Zamorak to finish the job, I'm sure he was so sick of Zamorak's violent tendancies. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

08-Apr-2016 21:56:39

Chaos Lupus

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@ Haku

I wouldn't say the entire God Wars was Saradomin's fault, the blame lays at the feet of everyone who participated, the gods most of all. Plus, unless a J Mod has clarified somewhere, we don't know what Zamorak was referring to when he accused Saradomin of betrayal. He was presumably talking about the events following the fall of Senntisten, but we don't really know the details there.

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08-Apr-2016 22:00:19

Solanumtinkr

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Saradomin may not have been solely responsible for the God Wars, but he seems to have a proven track record of betrayal of allies that would make anyone twitchy when it comes to helping him.

It is also somewhat ironic that if he tried to justify his actions, especially citing the other gods philosophy or his own suitability over theirs to rule, he'd just make himself look like a foaming at the mouth fanatic. Saying he regretted his actions wouldn't be believed and taken as topic avoidance, or with a pinch of salt. The fact is actions speak louder than words in this case. Far louder. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, but that's war for you.

The real threat is that this mess will never blow over regardless of any ceasefires due to more serious issues. The gods can wait, time is on their side. They'd wait for us to pass away and then carry on, business as usual. The purpose of adventure is to shine light into dark places,
Poke monsters with a sharp stick, Then steal anything that isn't nailed down!
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10-Apr-2016 06:40:42 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2016 07:01:23 by Solanumtinkr

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2013

ZAmorakZaros

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I think we need to unite the gods against a greater enemy. Well elders are a good one but... I don't think that even combining the powers of all known non-elder gods (alive and dead), dragonkin, other powerful beings and us is even enough to defeat one elder... But I want the god wars to stop.

FOREVER

NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

10-Apr-2016 20:10:18

Hawkfish

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ZAmorakZaros said :
Hawkfish said :
Hazeel said :
And attacking the planet, we have Vorago--who onced attacked before and may do so again--the Dark Lord, who we recently defeated, and the Empty Lord, who wishes to control our fates.

And then we have our greatest threats, Saradomin, an egomaniac who has a temper problem that has caused him to destroy and entire planet before. And Armadyl, an alien invader who wishes to conquer us all and kill everyone who opposes him.

You have no right to speak Zamorakian, your evil God is the only God that destroyed an entire continent on gielinor leaving a dark scar on the planet!

The greatest threat is Zamorak, should that devil gain the Eye of Saradomin than all hope for survival is lost.
Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...

No other choice?! He began the damned Godwars! And there is always a choice. The Eye of Saradomin is best left in the hands of the God of Order, light and wisdom!

The Light of Saradomin shall guide me

14-Apr-2016 01:05:22

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2013

ZAmorakZaros

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Hawkfish said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
Hawkfish said :
Hazeel said :
And attacking the planet, we have Vorago--who onced attacked before and may do so again--the Dark Lord, who we recently defeated, and the Empty Lord, who wishes to control our fates.

And then we have our greatest threats, Saradomin, an egomaniac who has a temper problem that has caused him to destroy and entire planet before. And Armadyl, an alien invader who wishes to conquer us all and kill everyone who opposes him.

You have no right to speak Zamorakian, your evil God is the only God that destroyed an entire continent on gielinor leaving a dark scar on the planet!

The greatest threat is Zamorak, should that devil gain the Eye of Saradomin than all hope for survival is lost.
Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...

No other choice?! He began the damned Godwars! And there is always a choice. The Eye of Saradomin is best left in the hands of the God of Order, light and wisdom!
Zamorak was cornered. and if he had to die , he decided to take the others with him and free the world. Sadly they survived. But that blast saved the world. It woke Guthix. Without it, the war may have continued. but still, THE STONE OF JAS is best left in the hands of no one. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

14-Apr-2016 07:28:29

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2004

An Aviansie

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ZAmorakZaros said :
Hawkfish said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
Hawkfish said :
Hazeel said :
Removed nonsense for space.

You have no right to speak Zamorakian, your evil God is the only God that destroyed an entire continent on gielinor leaving a dark scar on the planet!

The greatest threat is Zamorak, should that devil gain the Eye of Saradomin than all hope for survival is lost.
Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...

No other choice?! He began the damned Godwars! And there is always a choice. The Eye of Saradomin is best left in the hands of the God of Order, light and wisdom!
Zamorak was cornered. and if he had to die , he decided to take the others with him and free the world. Sadly they survived. But that blast saved the world. It woke Guthix. Without it, the war may have continued. but still, THE STONE OF JAS is best left in the hands of no one.

Whatever you want to call it, you're right, but not for the reason you think.

I think nobody should use the stone simply because of the dragonkin. If they were out of the way, maybe then could I consider its use.

Obviously not for nuking continents during hissy fits, but you know, something more constructive. Like, I don't know, maybe we could possibly use it to aid us against the elders if diplomacy fails. Sure, it by itself wouldn't be strong enough, but it'd be SOMETHING at least.

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15-Apr-2016 23:06:16 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2016 23:07:33 by An Aviansie

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