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Herbivore

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Same dance, different tune. (Not to say that we don't enjoy the show. :P )

Tuska, the World-Eater was supposedly capable of game-changing carnage as well and you've seen what that amounted to. Safely dead and conveniently out of the way.

Nothing we do out of personal choice in quests or as a collective via World Events seem to have any long-term consequences if it's not in the interest of the powers that be. We're just given the illusion of choice. Bandos & Tuska were both slated for the grave before their events ever started.

To give a perfect example that I think will resonate with a lot of people - Zaros stated in Fate of the Gods that if the player chose to sabotage his body, it would eventually fail him and he'd face death if he doesn't accomplish his goals before it rejects him. Do you really suppose they'll allow Zaros to die? They'll find a way to tie that loose end regardless of player choice, whether he becomes an Elder or not is immaterial.

But, anyway, to answer your question of a genuine imminent threat producing anything consequential - Nope, don't believe so.
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07-Apr-2016 23:54:52 - Last edited on 08-Apr-2016 00:03:53 by Herbivore

ZAmorakZaros
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Herbivore said :
Same dance, different tune. (Not to say that we don't enjoy the show. :P )

Tuska, the World-Eater was supposedly capable of game-changing carnage as well and you've seen what that amounted to. Safely dead and conveniently out of the way.

Nothing we do out of personal choice in quests or as a collective via World Events seem to have any long-term consequences if it's not in the interest of the powers that be. We're just given the illusion of choice. Bandos & Tuska were both slated for the grave before their events ever started.

To give a perfect example that I think will resonate with a lot of people - Zaros stated in Fate of the Gods that if the player chose to sabotage his body, it would eventually fail him and he'd face death if he doesn't accomplish his goals before it rejects him. Do you really suppose they'll allow Zaros to die? They'll find a way to tie that loose end regardless of player choice, whether he becomes an Elder or not is immaterial.

But, anyway, to answer your question of a genuine imminent threat producing anything consequential - Nope, don't believe so.

I think Zaros may Tumeken himself... Or maybe not... maybe yes... maybe not...
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08-Apr-2016 08:05:47

ZAmorakZaros
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Hawkfish said :
Hazeel said :
And attacking the planet, we have Vorago--who onced attacked before and may do so again--the Dark Lord, who we recently defeated, and the Empty Lord, who wishes to control our fates.

And then we have our greatest threats, Saradomin, an egomaniac who has a temper problem that has caused him to destroy and entire planet before. And Armadyl, an alien invader who wishes to conquer us all and kill everyone who opposes him.


You have no right to speak Zamorakian, your evil God is the only God that destroyed an entire continent on gielinor leaving a dark scar on the planet!

The greatest threat is Zamorak, should that devil gain the Eye of Saradomin than all hope for survival is lost.

Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...
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08-Apr-2016 08:10:07

Jack Bowe
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Hawkfish said :
You have no right to speak Zamorakian, your evil God is the only God that destroyed an entire continent on gielinor leaving a dark scar on the planet!

The greatest threat is Zamorak, should that devil gain the Eye of Saradomin than all hope for survival is lost.


Yet when Saradomin destroyed Askaroth purely because the Naragi refused to serve him, he didn't destroy part of their world leaving a dark scar on their planet? They all died but Guthix, I'd call that a pretty hefty scar.

And it isn't called the Eye of Saradomin, it isn't Saradomin's possession, it's called the Stone of Jas because it's JasKra's. Let's not go throwing false names around. ;)

08-Apr-2016 16:59:48

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ZAmorakZaros said :

Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...


He had other options. He could have tried to surrender peacefully which he didn't. He could have just accepted defeat he didn't. He just thought it'd be better to blow up everyone.
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08-Apr-2016 17:12:03

Hazeel

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Raxxess said :
ZAmorakZaros said :

Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...


He had other options. He could have tried to surrender peacefully which he didn't. He could have just accepted defeat he didn't. He just thought it'd be better to blow up everyone.


Yeah, he could have let all of his followers die, let the battle for the stone continue, and leave Gielinor in the fate of one of three tyrants (Bandos would have likely won too). Turning a continent gray seems like a small price to pay to prevent that honestly.

It's understandable that sometimes Gods need to make sacrifices for the greater good. Like when Saradomin destroyed all of Naragun. I mean, he had other options, yes, but they weren't worth the price! Imagine if he had actually gone with the alternative, apologized to the Naragi, and simply.....left, so Tuska could follow him! ....Man....imagine that! Saradomin having to admit he was wrong. No, it's better than the entire world gets destroyed!
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08-Apr-2016 18:45:14

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Hazeel said :

Yeah, he could have let all of his followers die, let the battle for the stone continue, and leave Gielinor in the fate of one of three tyrants (Bandos would have likely won too). Turning a continent gray seems like a small price to pay to prevent that honestly.

It's understandable that sometimes Gods need to make sacrifices for the greater good. Like when Saradomin destroyed all of Naragun. I mean, he had other options, yes, but they weren't worth the price! Imagine if he had actually gone with the alternative, apologized to the Naragi, and simply.....left, so Tuska could follow him! ....Man....imagine that! Saradomin having to admit he was wrong. No, it's better than the entire world gets destroyed!


His followers could have surrendered we have the cutscene they did try to talk to him but he choose otherwise when people rejected his philosophy and went into a rage and that's when he blew up the surrounding area.
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08-Apr-2016 19:21:08

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Raxxess said :
ZAmorakZaros said :

Did he do anything destructive with it last time? Not until he had no other choice. I think the CATALYST is too dangerous in any arms. It needs to be destroyed. Maybe we can choke the elder gods with it...


He had other options. He could have tried to surrender peacefully which he didn't. He could have just accepted defeat he didn't. He just thought it'd be better to blow up everyone.


Why would he do that? There was no good reason to throw away a 4,000 year-long war effort, allow the God Wars to continue on without him for potentially thousands of years longer, and allow one of his enemies to establish a system that he's philosophically opposed to.
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08-Apr-2016 19:39:24

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Safe? No, now that he walks the earth again NOBODY is safe from Saradomin's tyranny. Those that refuse to bend to him will undoubtedly suffer the same as Guthix's people! I do NOT buy into that ******** about remorse, he's just regretful that there were witnesses. Saradomin's treachery knows no bounds, he'll use you and stab you in the back like he did Zamorak so long as you could pose any remote threat to him.
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08-Apr-2016 19:45:43

Hazeel

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Raxxess said :
His followers could have surrendered


And end up like the Zarosians.

Raxxess said :
we have the cutscene they did try to talk to him.


Is THAT what you think Saradomin was doing? XD
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08-Apr-2016 20:14:22

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