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Sepulchre
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I have a feeling everybody saw this coming.
We all saw what happened in Children of Mah, Zamorak and Zaros being drained, Zaros kicking Zamorak's tail, Zamorak sacrificing his energy, them both getting empowered, along with the other creations of Mah present at the ritual.

So we all know the Mahjarrat, Zamorak, and even Zaros and Seren were losing power to Mah. Zamorak ended up picking a fight we all knew he couldn't win, then trying to sacrifice himself for the Mahjarrat.
In the end he got a power-boost, Zaros got a power-boost, and so did the Mahjarrat.

My first question is this: Where does Zamorak stand now? He tried to give everything he had to the Mahjarrat, I can't imagine he got as much back in the end. Has he dropped in power significantly? Only a bit? Mildly?

Secondly: Zaros. How strong is he now? Not an Elder God obviously, but he's gotta be closer. Stronger than Guthix in his prime? Tier 1.5 maybe...?

Third: The Mahjarrat. I'm assuming the order of power is still the same, leaving Azzanadra top dog, but how strong is he now? Is he almost like a demi-god now? What about our enemies? Khazard and Zemouregal both really don't like us.. are we screwed now, how powerful are they?!

Lastly: Seren. I can't help but notice she was never connected to the ritual. Did she lose all the power she had drained from herself by Mah? How much power did she lose?


If anybody has answers or theories, I'd like to hear 'em. A
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16-Dec-2016 06:30:29

Ancient Drew

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I would say Zamorak lost a lot of his power, maybe went down to tier 5, when he lost his wings. Then after the ritual he got back a bit. So he might still be tier 4 but only slightly weaker than the others.

As for picking fights, it was more stupid of him picking on Seren. Zaros had the logic to stop and still respected him in some ways, but Seren could have killed every single one of the Mahjarrat and badly hurt both Zaros and us.

Now Zaros and Seren, I'm not sure if they're stronger than Guthix was. They might be equal to Guthix now, and I think Seren might have been connected to the ritual too. She did finish off Mah after all.

As for Khazard and Zemouregal, I'm looking forward to a more interesting rematch. :D Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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16-Dec-2016 06:57:39

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ZAmorakZaros said :
a crippled, nearly braindead elder god/11= Still a lot Fixed that for ya. But yeah, whatever power Zamoramadingdong lost/gave up during CoM, he certainly got back. He might even rival Saradomin now.

As for everyone else... I dunno, they're probably all ultra-badasses or something. An interesting possibility would be if all of the Mahjarrat ascended to godhood (or at least demigodhood); then our fabulous World Guardian powers would work on them.

Also, the ending scene implies that Seren could've obliterated all of the Mahjarrat anyway. So whether or not she gained power from the ritual, it's safe to say she wasn't weakened too much. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

16-Dec-2016 09:54:11

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Zaros has made it clear he's increased in power, perhaps he's now on or above what Guthix used to be.

As for Zamorak, he had been brought to heel like a good little angry child, and then began to sacrifice his own energy on top of still being attacked, I can't imagine he's risen a tier at all. He lost a lot in the process, he's had to make up for a lot of that lost power during the final ritual.
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16-Dec-2016 14:05:06

Hazeel

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They should all be much stronger than Zaros ever was. They absorbed an Elder splitting the power between the ten of them. Even if Zamorak gave up all of his power(and I highly doubt that), that's not even worth 1% of the power Mah had. Hell that's probably not even worth 0.1% of an Elder. Honestly, I think he would have lost much more power from the drain than giving it away, and considering how much they all gained, it's pretty irrelevant

The only ones who should be weakened are Seren and Sliske who lost a massive amount due to the drain and got none of it back since they didn't participate. Given that the drain was enough to take nearly all their power, it wouldn't surprise me if Seren was dying. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

16-Dec-2016 22:13:57 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 23:01:23 by Hazeel

Derack
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NachtWeaver said :
Considering Zamorak and Saradomin imprisoned Azzanadra instead of killing him, I'm wondering if he was a lot more powerful than we thought to begin with. Weren't it Zamorakian forces and Saradominist's that fought Azzy? If i remember correctly what i readed; Zamorakian's locked Azzy away (i assume the Mahjarrat), it was written Azzy was burning both sides forces to the ground before getting locked up, and that he was to powerful to be killed. (old lore, but lore nothing less. I believe it is to exaggerating, even for Azzy, but it's same thing with Nex)
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16-Dec-2016 22:40:36

Summerleaf
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Zammy has to be at least t4, still. I wouldn't be surprised if he was now t3 to match Saradomin.

I honestly have no idea about Zaros, but I feel like he still might actually under Guthix' threshold.

I'm pretty sure all of the Mahjarrat are now finally considered to be t7. (They've always been divine beings, but whenever I read anything about the Stern Judges, it seems that they were on equal footing with Tumekin's aspects on the battlefield. It was just their numbers that helped in their advantage against Zaros' forces)

Seren is still, probably, on the low end of t2, unless she absorbed some power when she killed her mom, in which case, she would still be the weakest t2, probably, but I think she could stand toe-to-toe with Zaros, if it came down to it.

16-Dec-2016 22:42:45 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2016 22:46:35 by Summerleaf

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