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Bexy
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Sharp-shin said :
Bexy said :
Firstly, every person offering support to the Agents of Fury Re-Release thread.

Secondly, 5 of my own personal friends, about 60 people I've chatted to ingame about the outfit. I've approached every single person I've seen wearing the Agents of Fury outfit and opened conversation about it and at least 1 other player joined in the conversation sometimes 2-3
That's a really small sample size in comparison to the size of the playerbase, even if you aren't exaggerating. Plus, because you don't provide more detailed information, bias is likely involved as well in that sample size.

Bexy said :
You know, there really is an easy way to see what the RuneScape player base wants. Have Jagex run a poll to decide if Agents of Fury should/should not return. But my guess is that you would be too chicken to agree to wanting one of those as I'm very confident the way my vote would go would win by a clear margin.
Is it confidence though, or is it actually that you have nothing to lose? Because think about it: at the moment, Jagex isn't going to re-release the outfit. If we did go ahead with the poll, and it failed to pass (meaning that the outfit wouldn't be re-released), what would you lose? Nothing. Your situation would remain the same way it has been so far. On the other hand, those of us who care about the outfit being discontinued, would risk losing that value if the poll did pass and the outfit was re-released as a result.

If you're going to call someone a chicken, at least put up some kind of risk on the line for yourself as well.

Exactly, it's a small sample. Which is why we need a vote asking if AOF should return or not, and then you have your big sample and then it will not just one player like Angolmore asked. I'm not the RuneScape playerbase, I am a player. Only a widescale vote can determine the ? Please bring back Agents of Fury in some format Jagex!

15-May-2018 00:13:39 - Last edited on 15-May-2018 00:15:15 by Bexy

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Bexy said :
And, having considered that, it should be noted that I am just one person that you are attempting to survey, and many people who want the outfit to return either have no desire, no time, or no will to come to the forums and to voice their opinion about wanting the outfit to return. The issue is not as passionate to them but it does in no way mean that they don't fully support the decision to return Agents of Fury, it just means that they care less than others about it.
It goes both ways; many people who are happy with the outfit being discontinued, have no desire/time/will to come to the forums at all, because they're happily playing in-game, so they might not even realize that there's a thread on the forums asking for a re-release. And even if they were aware, they might also realize that the sample size on the forums is way too small to be taken seriously.

Jeremy Cheng said :
Where was it confirmed they are rereleasing the outfit?
Nowhere.

Bexy said :
You're also wrong about me having something to lose by the way. If the vote did not pass and the playerbase did not want AOF to return, then there would be no possible way that I could acquire the outfit. So I would have something to lose, this fact alone should actually prevent me from replying to you any more if you cannot understand something as simple as that.
But you have no way to currently acquire the outfit, or else you wouldn't be here, because you'd have it already. And let's be honest here; would you really give up if the outcome wasn't in your favor? I doubt it, as there have been people before who haven't given up, demanding a re-poll when their thing that was polled failed to pass.
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15-May-2018 00:15:49

Bexy
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Yes it does go both ways. There will be players who are fine for AOF to still be discontinued and won't bother coming to the forums to voice that opinion. But only a vote will determine just how many of each side there are. The forums can not be an accurate determination of number of voters for and against. Put it to the vote if you aren't scared, otherwise I call chicken.

Oh and if I lost the vote, I wouldn't be happy, but I would accept it and reluctantly abandon my attempts to bring AOF into the game once more. Please bring back Agents of Fury in some format Jagex!

15-May-2018 00:19:24

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Bexy said :
Yes it does go both ways. There will be players who are fine for AOF to still be discontinued and won't bother coming to the forums to voice that opinion. But only a vote will determine just how many of each side there are. The forums can not be an accurate determination of number of voters for and against. Put it to the vote if you aren't scared, otherwise I call chicken.

Oh and if I lost the vote, I wouldn't be happy, but I would accept it and reluctantly abandon my attempts to bring AOF into the game once more.

Why do they need a vote for something like this? :@

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15-May-2018 00:24:30

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Bexy said :
Oh and if I lost the vote, I wouldn't be happy, but I would accept it and reluctantly abandon my attempts to bring AOF into the game once more.
And how can I verify the trustworthiness of your word prior to holding the poll? Let's face it; there's no way to do that. You're asking for blind trust in your word. It'd be uneven stakes.

Bexy said :
The amount of chickens in this thread is hilarious. Thanks guys for the laugh, this is the most fun I've had in a long while reading all of the attempts to get out of committing to an even vote.
It's a guarantee that people who care about the discontinuity would lose it, while it's not guaranteed that you'd keep your word if you lost. Thus, it's not even, and you're being a chicken yourself. In order for it to be even stakes, you have to offer something guaranteed, which doesn't rely on blind trust. > )
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15-May-2018 00:28:52

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Sharp-shin said :
Bexy said :
Oh and if I lost the vote, I wouldn't be happy, but I would accept it and reluctantly abandon my attempts to bring AOF into the game once more.
And how can I verify the trustworthiness of your word prior to holding the poll? Let's face it; there's no way to do that. You're asking for blind trust in your word. It'd be uneven stakes.

Bexy said :
The amount of chickens in this thread is hilarious. Thanks guys for the laugh, this is the most fun I've had in a long while reading all of the attempts to get out of committing to an even vote.
It's a guarantee that people who care about the discontinuity would lose it, while it's not guaranteed that you'd keep your word if you lost. Thus, it's not even, and you're being a chicken yourself. In order for it to be even stakes, you have to offer something guaranteed, which doesn't rely on blind trust. > )

Exactly.

15-May-2018 00:30:05

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15-May-2018 00:31:08

Bexy
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Sharp-shin said :
Bexy said :
Oh and if I lost the vote, I wouldn't be happy, but I would accept it and reluctantly abandon my attempts to bring AOF into the game once more.
And how can I verify the trustworthiness of your word prior to holding the poll? Let's face it; there's no way to do that. You're asking for blind trust in your word. It'd be uneven stakes.

Bexy said :
The amount of chickens in this thread is hilarious. Thanks guys for the laugh, this is the most fun I've had in a long while reading all of the attempts to get out of committing to an even vote.
It's a guarantee that people who care about the discontinuity would lose it, while it's not guaranteed that you'd keep your word if you lost. Thus, it's not even, and you're being a chicken yourself. In order for it to be even stakes, you have to offer something guaranteed, which doesn't rely on blind trust. > )

I would then have to fire a claim right back at you in saying how do I know everybody who posts here even possesses the outfit to begin with and is just not here to be toxic and trolling? Please bring back Agents of Fury in some format Jagex!

15-May-2018 00:31:19

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