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Castle Age

Castle Age

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How on earth is this game going to appeal to new players? The first pop-up screen you get is about a SOF-scam or a membership deal. It's so hard to let this game go since it's been a part of my life for the past 8 years. The expiration date has been exceeded a long time ago though :( .
Simplicity is the ultimate form of sophistication. Thus, making a game simpel and enjoyable will give you success. All this marketing crap won't save the game. Adding good content and bringing back the tutorial island might do a bit.
I wish I could give constructive criticism. But there are no longer fundings to build on :@ .
EDIT: typo

28-Aug-2012 23:04:01 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2012 23:04:24 by Castle Age

Ankh-Morpork
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Ankh-Morpork

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I honestly have no problem with this update, only what this update could lead to. I never find myself short on bank space so not having access to this is no problem to me. I do fear that this is leading to other "services" such as selling more inventory space, BOB space or more items kept on death.

28-Aug-2012 23:08:23

MaxPow3r

MaxPow3r

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I object.
I don't care for the new microtransactions, beginning with the game card redemption cosmetics, which members essentially buy since the cards cost more than their monthly subscription. That's my opionion, and I understand that other people have their own opinions, and I have the option to quit if I don't like it.
What I object to is Jagex not calling it like it is. You can make the rules whatever you want them to be, and you're free to change the rules - just don't say one thing WHILE doing another.
"Buying RS gold? Nope, definitely not happening."
-JMod
You can ALREADY buy gold through SOF spins for real world dollars, even more easily convertble to coin thanks to a recent update. Some cosmetics are on the SOF, but the majority of rewards recieved (at least by me, over the last ~500 spins) are either coins, raw materials with coin value, or XP lamps - which are a clear and indisputable in game advantage.
"Guys, remember that Bank space is not an in game advantage. Members already have a massive amount of bank space and could easily get the same amount of XP per hour as someone with more bank space. This is more of a convenience item."
-JMod
"Convenience" has no overlap with XP per hour? If you can fit more things in your bank, you have access to more items and equipment, and can spend less time mucking around to find it. More bank spaces do result in a higher rate of "XP per hour [of gameplay]" in the same way flat out stat bonuses (or SOF lamps) do. Your bank is an essential part of game play, and since nobody else can see it, it is definitely NOT "cosmetic."
Again, I don't have a problem with the updates. I have a problem with the failure to be forthright about them.

28-Aug-2012 23:08:45

Amascut
Aug Member 2013

Amascut

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Hey Mod Sushi_Pi, thanks for wading through this for answers. I really hope the announcement is something good, rather than further, admittedly fairly annoying at this point, Microtransaction updates.
I really am starting to feel that the cosmetics need to go back to rewards from quests and events, and emotes the same way. I'm tired of, every Friday, logging on to see a new Microtransactions update. I'm ok with Solomon as long as his exclusives remain purely cosmetic (i.e. adding to loyalty is a-ok with me), but the SoF is getting tiring.
Anyway, hoping to see some good news soon, and hopefully find the game back on track, with any luck.

One last thing though. I've noticed a LOT of IVP rage in this thread, per usual, and I really can't stress enough - IVP has very little to do with these updates. These are all Jagex decisions, that were only suggestions by the investers. You guys really have to remember that. IVP may not care about the game in the same way the devs do, but they too want the players to be pleased, and Jagex *is* the ones designing all the new SoF and Solomon updates. So please, keep the IVP rage to a minimum, considering it's not really their fault. They're normal people in a company, who happened to invest in a game, and are providing further money for the development of the game, far beyond what the Microtransactions are providing. So yeah, please get yourselves informed before going off on a rage tangent, when you are quite behind on the facts.
Thanks,
Amascut @Fannygirdle on Twitter | Co-Owner of The Scrying Pool, a future updates and lore clan

28-Aug-2012 23:08:59

Reepca

Reepca

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etchupFTW,
Today see's the new hunter D&D and there is a Al Kharid rework coming soon. There is also other strong content on it's way.
Thanks,
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Apologies about only having the patience to get to page 5 before deciding to respond to a jmod...
The new hunter d&d was supposed to be a ... guess what... PRIVATE HUNTER AREA. WHERE YOU CAN HUNT AWAY FROM BOTS. Guess what? It's NOT A PRIVATE HUNTER AREA.
As for the graphic rework, you have to be kidding me. After armour was "reworked", and jagex stated that this year would be the year of graphic "improvements", I just about threw up. Everything looks awful now, like somebody from cartoon network made it! Not very runescape-ish at all.
A DISTRACTION is not "strong content". A graphic update (by the way, you could also consider every solomon & sof new item a "graphic update" because it changes the graphics available in game) is not STRONG CONTENT. The Evolution of Content is HEAVY CONTENT that is crushing everybody's hopes.
You're the same guys who told us that real world trading always has and always will be against the rules in any form. You're the same guys who told us that clan camp/citadels were the biggest updates of the year.
Surely you've realized we don't trust you at all ever since you stabbed us in the back ?
My suggestion: take a "give the players what they want" strategy, not a "cram more moneygrabbing schemes down the player's throats" strategy. Hire a sociologist to make observations about the runescape community, what they like, dislike, and what would make them happy. Not more "marketing consultants".

28-Aug-2012 23:09:44

TheJLC

TheJLC

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Personally, I don't mind if the bank space boosters will also be added to the Loyalty Shop. However, I think that F2pers should also get a chance of getting this somehow without having to spend money.
Perhaps a smaller booster of let's say, 10-15 spots for continuing to play for X amount of weeks consecutively. This of course would be a one time thing and only one booster that would be automatically available to members.

28-Aug-2012 23:11:43

custard130
Aug Member 2011

custard130

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@everyone saying extra bankspace gives no advantage.
if there was no advantage in something, what is the point in having it.
poeple buy membership so they have access to more game content.
the aura's from the loyalty shop give quite good bonus to training speed or combat advantages.
some people buy sof spins to gain xp or ingame wealth
poeple buy solomon items to make their character look "cooler"
now poeple will buy the extra bank space which isnt cosmetic and apparantly gives no advantage.
@DA-RK-Fl-RE
many poeple have other items in bank such as holiday items(alot), teleport items (dueling and wealth rings, glory's, games necklaces, teletabs), aura's, circus and random event costumes etc
+when the eoc update comes (probably with a new rwt thing) players will use more items in combat (offhand weapons, etc)
i highly doubt that your bank has less than 300 items
(if a mod reads this then "DA-RK-Fl-RE" only wants 215 bank spaces)

28-Aug-2012 23:14:42 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2012 23:19:16 by custard130

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