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D4, what makes your post not propaganda? Because your not providing any evidence to back up your claims. I have.

And your "evidence" is conjecture for future events. Nothing more.

Try again.

No u. Seriously, that's all you ever post these days. Are you after post count?

23-Mar-2016 01:16:34

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And here I thought Jagex couldn't do something possibly worse than the EOC.

Guess I was wrong.

In defense of the truth.. jagex isn't doing ANYTHING. Jagex is a company owned by investment firms.. it's the investment firms that decide if jagex is sold or not.

The jmods simply work for the company.. they are NOT the company. They might very well be about to lose their jobs (it does sometimes work that way in this type of business transaction).

But no... jagex didn't do anything (and they can't do anything). Not this time.

This is the FAIREST comment on this thread (well, not counting mine of course).

Not that the current Jagex employees don't answer the questions, they simply don't know anything before they meet with their new bosses. In fact, they should be more concerned than the player community since they are the ones directly involved in the direction of the new Boss. Things can go either way though. They can be better off like the case when Tencent bought Riot, but it can also be the end to some as in the case when Tencent bought Radient.

Business as usual for next 3 months. Those are the words of wisdom.

23-Mar-2016 01:19:57 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 01:28:40 by Dilbert2001

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D4, what makes your post not propaganda? Because your not providing any evidence to back up your claims. I have.

And your "evidence" is conjecture for future events. Nothing more.

Try again.

No u. Seriously, that's all you ever post these days. Are you after post count?

You may want to look into Argumentum ad Ignoratiam, because that's exactly what you're doing.

You're not very good at this, are ye lad? "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 01:22:43

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I do a bit of business and Jagex market value right now be *250 million if you do some research that will be about it's value tops whichever way you slice it so they are not paying double or triple what it's worth with a $50 million premium to sweeten the pot.

That why everyone jump ship but they got to do something amazing for them to recoup that $50 million which isn't going to be $300 million just cause they bought it for that amount the actual value of the company could even be *200 million but just working with the higher Valuation so less margin of error.

And yeah it's way inflated price so that what everyone can agree on which is why the current investment group already left the building because they just flip either 1/3 or 1/6 profit by just signing a piece of paper so good on them they did a good job. No one can fault them on doing a remarkable job they are out to make money they done that.

Now picking up the pieces hey I seriously doubt they have intentions of selling or hedging because it's taking a huge lost when other options out there with different more sophisticated methods that won't attract any attention or raise any eye brows hey they got a team of lawyers, finical advisers plus accountants on payroll...

Not a simple hedge as been stated at all just too many things don't add up but it's not going to be a sell out to China either because would be a lot easier and cheaper to create a MMO in China that targets that market place without going oversea purchasing a game that isn't attracting anyone but gold farmers rofl Go out of the way....

Maybe spend another 50-100 million remaking the game for the Chinese market I mean now that makes zero sense but hey could happen I guess >****; I'm willing to bet I'll win the next Jack pot in lotto before they make a stupid business move like that though.

23-Mar-2016 01:23:09

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@Dilbert, WoW must not infringe upon the conditions set by the party. I haven't played WoW so I don't know exactly but I would ask do they have gods or a religion system in place? As this is a very strict thing in terms of censorship.



If you haven't played WoW, how could you tell it "must not" infringe upon the conditions set by the "party"? And yes, they have gods and factions. Many games developed and run by Chinese companies in China have gods and religions too. Neverwinter Online, owned and operated by PWE is an example.

Games in China can't have gods and religions? That's hilarious!!!!

23-Mar-2016 01:25:47 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 01:26:52 by Dilbert2001

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No you.

@Hotzone it really depends on the amount that they are expecting to lose with the yuan.
$50million now or *200m later. Depends what their analysts have predicted. But Id say your on the right track. I don't see how it suggests more MTX other than simply being Chinese.

23-Mar-2016 01:30:56

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If you haven't played WoW, how could you tell it "must not" infringe upon the conditions set by the "party"? And yes, they have gods and factions. Many games developed and run by Chinese companies in China have gods and religions too. Neverwinter Online, owned and operated by PWE is an example.

Games in China can't have gods and religions? That's hilarious!!!!
That was a possible reason, a stab in the dark. If you want to be so childish to take every word of mine as law, go read the whole constitution of the Chinese republic. From your experience of playing WoW and Runescape you will be able to distinguish the two and use that knowledge to reason out why it might not be allowed in China.

23-Mar-2016 01:34:55

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Maybe spend another 50-100 million remaking the game for the Chinese market I mean now that makes zero sense but hey could happen I guess >****; I'm willing to bet I'll win the next Jack pot in lotto before they make a stupid business move like that though.

Mate, look at it like this:

Say they did spend 50-100M just to remake the game for the Chinese market. If 07 is anything to go by, remaking a game from a backup (they do exist, you know) takes about a week or two maximum with minimal investment.

Going off of the 600 or some odd million people in China that use the Internet (assuming it is true for the sake of argument)...if even 10% use legitimate means to pay for membership ALONE (I say legitimate because there is precedence for CC fraud in paying for membership specifically from there and was apparently a big factor in removing Free Trade/Wilderness back in 2007), you'd be looking at ~600M USD gross income (ignoring costs such as server space and employee pay). That 600M also ignores people buying into MTX.

I would not put a separate version of Runescape COMPLETELY out of the question knowing this... "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 01:35:10 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 01:36:06 by Team Skull

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No you.

Thank you for conceding to me :) "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

23-Mar-2016 01:35:39

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And here I thought Jagex couldn't do something possibly worse than the EOC.

Guess I was wrong.

In defense of the truth.. jagex isn't doing ANYTHING. Jagex is a company owned by investment firms.. it's the investment firms that decide if jagex is sold or not.

The jmods simply work for the company.. they are NOT the company. They might very well be about to lose their jobs (it does sometimes work that way in this type of business transaction).

But no... jagex didn't do anything (and they can't do anything). Not this time.

This is the FAIREST comment on this thread (well, not counting mine of course).

Not that the current Jagex employees don't answer the questions, they simply don't know anything before they meet with their new bosses. In fact, they should be more concerned than the player community since they are the ones directly involved in the direction of the new Boss. Things can go either way though. They can be better off like the case when Tencent bought Riot, but it can also be the end to some as in the case when Tencent bought Radient.

Business as usual for next 3 months. Those are the words of wisdom.

Don't want to pass on thanking you for the assessment of my post (thank you!) but I do want to point out that the opening post suggests that more information will be available the end of April (and given that a gold post didn't answer the question of which date, if either, was accurate, I'm thinking we should give them a chance to provide the additional info they say they may be able to provide the end of April).

We're not going to know much more unless and until Jagex staff provides it (if they even can). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

23-Mar-2016 01:38:04

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