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Tali Zorah
Sep Member 2020

Tali Zorah

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So... Assuming all players involved are maxed

Player A buys 1000 bonds and sells them to player B.

Player A now has 7bil, or W.e the value is.

Player C did not purchase any bonds to sell.

Player A now has an ingame advantage over Player C due to Irl wealth.

Good job Jagex..

Italics=edit for clarity.


Since you never answered my amended statement.. I'll give it again :)
I've lost my arrow. Have you seen it? It's been on my mind a lot lately...

26-Sep-2013 10:31:19 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 10:32:21 by Tali Zorah

Randynumbers
Dec Member 2012

Randynumbers

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HI

I think I should post here, because, well, I just don't get this.

I have been a loyal player since way back (check under my avatar), I am not English speaking, and I guess I am getting a bit oldish.

I don't really understand this new bond thing, and do I have to really care about it?
I mean, do I have to buy them, use them, trade them? Can't I just be an ostrich, and bury my head in Al Kharid sand? There are sooo many new things in here as it is, and I just can't bring my brains around what it is ModMMG says in the video, or what is written about this. I just wanna play and have fun.


ok get this:
I buy a bond that can get 14-days of membership, and trade it to you for GP.

I pay for your membership, so you give me some of your GP

I don't have to resort to the black market to get GP, thereby adding new GP into the market.

The result is botters will be missing out on a lot of business, but not all. This decreases the GP added to the game, making GP a more valueble commodity**

**-Prices will drop a little over time.

26-Sep-2013 10:32:57

Marit Solers
Jun Member 2004

Marit Solers

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HI

I think I should post here, because, well, I just don't get this.

I have been a loyal player since way back (check under my avatar), I am not English speaking, and I guess I am getting a bit oldish.

I don't really understand this new bond thing, and do I have to really care about it?
I mean, do I have to buy them, use them, trade them? Can't I just be an ostrich, and bury my head in Al Kharid sand? There are sooo many new things in here as it is, and I just can't bring my brains around what it is ModMMG says in the video, or what is written about this. I just wanna play and have fun.


ok get this:
I buy a bond that can get 14-days of membership, and trade it to you for GP.

I pay for your membership, so you give me some of your GP

I don't have to resort to the black market to get GP, thereby adding new GP into the market.

The result is botters will be missing out on a lot of business, but not all. This decreases the GP added to the game, making GP a more valueble commodity**

**-Prices will drop a little over time.


I don't get this:
Why on earth would I pay someones membership? Why would I depart with my hard earned GP for something that others can decide the value of and that isn't something I can hold in my hand and fight with?

The gold farmers have never, in any way, that I know of, effected me. I don't deal with them. Heck, lol, I wouldn't even know where to look for a black market. I didn't even know it excisted.

26-Sep-2013 10:37:34 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 10:39:05 by Marit Solers

Void Sheep

Void Sheep

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YAY! Lets fight gold farmers by selling the gold ourselves!

"Hi, my name is Sam and I have been playing RuneScape for 6 months now. I love training combat, but some better equipment and armour would really help me.
I want to buy
Bonds and swap them for
some ganodermic armour.
I might finally be able to join my friends on a Nex run!"

Jagex? What happened to the no micro transactions? This game will be run by whoever is willing to pay the most IRL cash for their items.
NOW, this is NOT necessarily a bad thing, up to a point...

Jagex, you can make this work for you.
Firstly, set aside some items that will be off limit to cash users, preferably higher level and more exclusive content (at the moment its only untradeable gear change this).

Secondly, make sure that no items of value (non cosmetic or the likes) are only available to paying players. Cash should replace effort, not give you the advantage over hard working players.

Many companies are changing their business model from the traditional pay for membership model, to the buy ingame items model.
This has the possibility of being a good thing!


I can assume you have done the math and discovered that this method can make more money than by only selling membership. In this case, increase item sales in game, but keep it reasonable, and make membership free.

Free membership access will increase you player base hugely (if combined with adverts on the right websites).

The only concern is the betrayal of your long term players, and how you have turned your back on them and become what you said you never would. This seems to be a risk you are very willing to take.

I really hope somebody working at Jagex reads this and takes this into account although I know the chances are almost zero as this is located well past the hundredth page. Please respond if you read this.

"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" :(

*SheepOfAking

26-Sep-2013 10:38:18

Randynumbers
Dec Member 2012

Randynumbers

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@ everyone saying "oo EVE did this and there is no rwt etc.":

look it up from google. There is a nice full page of results for "selling eve online isk". Their system has not eradicated rwt and therefore bonds will not eradicate goldfarming.

also, there is one more point to make here:

you cant buy accounts/level for bonds (yet...), that part of botting business stays the same or even grows.

Good to see you looked it up.

Did not say it would eradicate it, it will dial it down. Saying the botting busuness for levels or accounts stays the same or grows is speculation, it may, but most markets are demand oriented, so i doubt it will grow

26-Sep-2013 10:45:09

Hobbes14
Oct Member 2022

Hobbes14

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Back to my original questiones:

Do I have to be bothered with this? Will my hard earned GP be changed into Bonds in my bank? Will I have to use Bonds for anything?


To answer your question, no.
Your gp will remain gp and you will not have to use them if you do not want to. You can buy bonds with ingame gp if you wish and use them to buy membership or Runecoins etc, but if you want to ignore them you can.

26-Sep-2013 10:47:27 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2013 10:47:39 by Hobbes14

Randynumbers
Dec Member 2012

Randynumbers

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Back to my original questiones:

Do I have to be bothered with this? Will my hard earned GP be changed into Bonds in my bank? Will I have to use Bonds for anything?


Nothing really changes for you. You have been offered the option to use your GP to let someone pay for your membership, but you don't have to**** will remain GP. Bond is just an item bought off the GE.

This is a solution to people buying gold from gold farmers, it doesn't concern you. It will be a slight advantage to you, because gp will become a bit more valueble over time. items will drop a little in price. other than that, just play your game. nothing changes.

26-Sep-2013 10:48:49

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