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xB o u n dx

xB o u n dx

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Take the money and run, right? The death of RuneScape is inevitable so you are just going to nurse it until it is gone.

I logged in the other morning and there were less than 10,000 people online. One world even only had 30 people in it. LoL is free and much more exciting....jus sayin

A update like this does not surprise me and I no longer want to be a part of this suck fest. I will be cancelling my membership.

26-Sep-2013 02:38:34

AcesNEights
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AcesNEights

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Folks, I'm just gonna restate it here. Bonds DO NOT , I repeat, DO NOT add gold into the game . You can buy them for real money, but the bonds do not inject gold into the game. They are redeemed for out of game things like membership, sof spins, and runecoins. At no time do these bonds inject gold into the RS economy . It's a gold sink . It's a sure fire thing that billions of gold have already been removed from the game via exchanging them for bonds. I've checked W2, and there are people selling THOUSANDS of bonds. That's a LOT of gold gone from the game. Good work, Jagex. I do hope that people will stop panicking and quitting rs before being fully informed.

In understanding this from the get go, here is my question:

Don't people buy gold for in-game items such as rares, armour, etc?

If you can only get runecoins, membership, or spins from bonds, won't people still buy gold to get in-game items?

Mod Tron,

Since someone (you) is actively reading these again, I was wondering if you could address this. Maybe there is something that I'm not understanding, but I'd like to. Thank you for your consideration.

*Or any other player that is still reading through these.

26-Sep-2013 02:41:10

Furvi

Furvi

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While it is Jagexs' things to do with what they wish; it's unfortunate to see it come down to this. No matter which way you look at it, real-life status can and will very easily determine ones' in game status.

Don't have enough for that level 90 gear? Buy 10 bonds, and sell them. BAM! Bye bye effort!

Is 99 Herblore a bit pricey for you and you're not willing and/or able to do it the slow way with Serum 207s? Buy 5 Bonds! You'll be looking at overloads in no time when you'll be able to buy the highest tiered potions the whole way through the skill!
Killing monsters or farming for herbs? Skill training? HA! Try our newest click-intensive skill - BONDING!

And to think that Jagex made a claim that they believe that NO ONE should be able to buy their way to success. I'm just shamed. That's all. I'm on the ropes with cancelling my recurring membership only because there's only so many steps further you can take with IGPs before it gets to the point of being able to buy max/completionist capes.
Real life status could already do that, it's not like this game wasn't already just a matter of gold. Now some people might use Jagex instead of third party sites.

Yeah. See though, with SoF - there's a chance.

450 Spins: 99.99$.

Even using convert to coin, the item value of some of the things you get are so obnoxiously low that most people even aiming to get gold would much rather be willing the get the item. Again; that's their choice. Even if they go for the gold, that's only 1,000 coins for small lamps/ 5,000 for medium, etc.

Cash bags are generally worthless.

Pendants; also, have a low conversion rate. Even the prized ones are... 50k.

I almost always get cash bags when I use my dailies/earned during promotions, and even then... the coins don't add up very high.

With this, there is NO chance. No Vegas or Bust. You got your millions. No trillions of spins needed.

26-Sep-2013 02:42:12

Guthix X
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Guthix X

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While it is Jagexs' things to do with what they wish; it's unfortunate to see it come down to this. No matter which way you look at it, real-life status can and will very easily determine ones' in game status.

Don't have enough for that level 90 gear? Buy 10 bonds, and sell them. BAM! Bye bye effort!

Is 99 Herblore a bit pricey for you and you're not willing and/or able to do it the slow way with Serum 207s? Buy 5 Bonds! You'll be looking at overloads in no time when you'll be able to buy the highest tiered potions the whole way through the skill!
Killing monsters or farming for herbs? Skill training? HA! Try our newest click-intensive skill - BONDING!

And to think that Jagex made a claim that they believe that NO ONE should be able to buy their way to success. I'm just shamed. That's all. I'm on the ropes with cancelling my recurring membership only because there's only so many steps further you can take with IGPs before it gets to the point of being able to buy max/completionist capes.

There is one aspect that many keep forgetting. Prices are largely inflated because there is so much gold in the game. Easy to obtain cheaply. If everything becomes overpriced then there are few ways to manage around the urge to buy gold... this is one of the more proper moves.

26-Sep-2013 02:43:53

Methys

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So lots of people buy bonds and sell them in game. What do the people who buy them in game do with them? Go out and buy a burger? They are only good for membership or spins. There is a limited RW market. What will happen when the in game market is saturated?

26-Sep-2013 02:44:08

Furvi

Furvi

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While it is Jagexs' things to do with what they wish; it's unfortunate to see it come down to this. No matter which way you look at it, real-life status can and will very easily determine ones' in game status.

Don't have enough for that level 90 gear? Buy 10 bonds, and sell them. BAM! Bye bye effort!

Is 99 Herblore a bit pricey for you and you're not willing and/or able to do it the slow way with Serum 207s? Buy 5 Bonds! You'll be looking at overloads in no time when you'll be able to buy the highest tiered potions the whole way through the skill!
Killing monsters or farming for herbs? Skill training? HA! Try our newest click-intensive skill - BONDING!

And to think that Jagex made a claim that they believe that NO ONE should be able to buy their way to success. I'm just shamed. That's all. I'm on the ropes with cancelling my recurring membership only because there's only so many steps further you can take with IGPs before it gets to the point of being able to buy max/completionist capes.
Real life status could already do that, it's not like this game wasn't already just a matter of gold. Now some people might use Jagex instead of third party sites.
The difference being that buying gold from a third party site was against the rules and could get you banned. Now buying gold from Jagex is well... accepted by Jagex.

That acceptance followed by the mass of community acceptance is what will lead to the inevitable downfall. Maybe I was wrong when this all started off with the Loyalty Programme, then blossomed that accepting into a true IGP (SoF), followed by constant buy-only cosmetics, and now this.

When they take it whatever the next step further is, I will no longer show some kind of upset emotion.

26-Sep-2013 02:44:19

Nukemarine

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It's interesting to say the least. The 10% charge means these devices are meant to used immediately for their intended purpose.

The person buying bonds from Jagex want gp for their excessive real world cash. He's not going to use it for membership**** coins or spins because he can buy those directly for much better prices.

The person buying bonds from players wants: membership**** coins or spins for their excessive. She's not going to buy these to trade again because she loses 10% of the GE cost right off the bat.

Look, RWT has been with RS since members. For $5 real world cash you got access to more in game benefits. Yes, for the longest time that was the only form of legal RWT (trust me, the trolls in the forums loved to point this out as proof of Jagex's hypocrisy). Membership were for people with modest cash wanting a larger game.

Next came a big form of RWT called Spins. True, you got a few just by being a member but. However, the GP and XP you got from spins was very modest for the price involved (usually $100 for 450 spins as the best deal). Of the three RWT methods till bonds, spins gave the most in game advantage. Spins were for people with lots of cash wanting more of that advantage.

Most recent were the Rune Coins update to RWT. This was more of a buyable loyalty program. A couple of items such as bank space and pets offered in game advantage. For the most part, this was for people who cared about looks for their real world cash.

Now, bonds can tie all of this together with the game economy. Some players are big movers in the economy and now could buy all of the membership, spins and RS coins they want. Hell, they could buy RuneFest tickets all with in game currency. All they need are other people wanting to get a taste of that currency using real world cash.

So, now, do either of these types of players want to risk what they built by black market RWT? Until now, the risk versus reward was better. Now, not so much.

26-Sep-2013 02:46:20

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