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Hank Rearden

Hank Rearden

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PeteVenerate said :

Go play old school if you want to play before MMG's time.

This is a dumb argument. There are many of us who like EoC, new skills, new bosses, new minigames, new gear, etc.

That does not mean we like the Jagex-sponsored cheating that MMG invented.

Our choices should not be "play an older game" or "play a game with no integrity." It's entirely MMG's fault for forcing us to make that decision.

12-Sep-2014 04:11:20

PeteVenerate
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Hank Rearden said :
PeteVenerate said :

Go play old school if you want to play before MMG's time.

This is a dumb argument. There are many of us who like EoC, new skills, new bosses, new minigames, new gear, etc.

That does not mean we like the Jagex-sponsored cheating that MMG invented.

Our choices should not be "play an older game" or "play a game with no integrity." It's entirely MMG's fault for forcing us to make that decision.

I'm pretty sure you remember the absurd amount of paying member bot accounts that got eliminated in one day. You can't actually be so naive to think that every problem has a clear cut right and wrong answer, good and evil, and MMG chose evil. If jagex has to compensate through micro transactions, than so be it. If you had to pick between those two evils, your telling me you would take the bots?

A game where 30% of the player base are not actual players compared to a game where a select few pay money to speed up tasks they find tedious seems like a no brainer.

12-Sep-2014 04:20:06 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2014 04:21:58 by PeteVenerate

Hank Rearden

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PeteVenerate said :
Hank Rearden said :
PeteVenerate said :

Go play old school if you want to play before MMG's time.

This is a dumb argument. There are many of us who like EoC, new skills, new bosses, new minigames, new gear, etc.

That does not mean we like the Jagex-sponsored cheating that MMG invented.

Our choices should not be "play an older game" or "play a game with no integrity." It's entirely MMG's fault for forcing us to make that decision.

I'm pretty sure you remember the absurd amount of paying member bot accounts that got eliminated in one day. You can't actually be so naive to think that every problem has a clear cut right and wrong answer. good and evil, and MMG chose evil. If jagex has to compensate through micro transactions, than so be it. If you had to pick between those two evils, your telling me you would take the bots?

If selling out morality to defeat bots were all MMG did, I might forgive him - it would make him scum, but he could at least justify his scummyness.


He cannot be forgiven for blatantly lying to players. On multiple occasions he promised "fewer MTX promotions" in the future. This clearly has not happened, and we continue to be bombarded with a new promotion every week. No one should be sad to see such an amoral person leave the game.

12-Sep-2014 04:25:58

C h a i r

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Eva Element said :
C h a i r said :
Having a different person at the helm of Jagex can make a difference, doesn't matter how many "mods" there are. It's how a company works, bud. Although I must say I don't think Pips has much of a different vision for Jagex than what MMG had, but we'll see.

Different person really doesn't mean they are going to do anything about micro transactions. You can have a new CEO of Wal Mart doesn't mean that employee pay checks increase and prices drop even more.

This is not the same thing at all - useless comparison is useless. Pay check rates rely on many factors (financially) and are in no way a "vision" of Walmart nor something used to draw in consumers. Jagex introducing microtransactions was 100% a choice - it was a vision MMG (and other employees, of course) wanted to pursue because they thought it would better the game and the company.

Eva Element said :
You also forget that micro transactions supply a very large chunk of extra cash for Jagex. And their harm of the over all game is all personal opinion based not fact based. Opinion based is not good enough for them to reduce money inflow because a few players are butt hurt over nothing. Especially since the supplemental income allows Jagex to keep low membership fees. Ever wonder why it seems even with all the "player loss" and the increasing price of just about everything else in existence membership fees have stayed at 7.95 a month?

Most players left because of microtransactions. Now that Legacy is back, there's really no arguing this. RuneScape functioned just fine for a decade with a $5 monthly fee and no microtransactions. Let's not forget we got more content and stable releases back in those days, too. There is absolutely no solid reason why microtransactions were implemented.

I believe the income you speak of is funding Transformers Universe.

12-Sep-2014 04:32:06

XTL

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MMG - Sad to see you go D: I hope you had a great time while you were at Jagex though, and I wish you the best with however you choose to spend the rest of your life. I joined RuneScape in mid 2010, and I can certainly tell you that at that time I was not the smartest of all players (you know, thinking that an insanely high stat is in the mid 50's, etc). I can definitely tell you that since then, you, along with the entire RuneScape team, have made the game much more enjoyable to play.

I thank you for all your time you have spent with Jagex, and I hope that you still keep up with the game after you leave =)

Just a side note to the people talking about the "Pay to Win" features.

Any time I have found out about a game being TRULY pay to win, I have stopped playing the game entirely. Now when I say truly, I mean that you can rise to the top of the leader boards with nothing but Bill Gates' bank wallet. In other words, you are able to not spend any time on the game, just money (don't tell me time is money, it certainly is not in this situation). In RuneScape, this is not the case. With RuneScape, you can buy coins for SGS, which is used for cosmetics, you can buy TH keys, which rarely give actually experience, and if you were to go for top page purely off of the occasional lamp, it would still take a significant amount of time to use the keys to get the lamps. Also, you can buy bonds which are only what other players are willing to pay for them, and that being said, currently about 5.5m to my knowledge. Yeah, that speeds up buyables, although they still take quite a bit of time to train, not to mention that quite a few of the skills are not buyable, so this rarely effects the game.

Well MMG, I hope you enjoy your life post-Jagex =)

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12-Sep-2014 04:32:18

PeteVenerate
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Regardless of morality, more money = more employees = more content. I agree, it was silly when they threw sizzling summer in our face as an excuse for no actual content for an entire summer, but the journey from 2008 - now has made runescape a far more enjoyable game in my opinion. The monthly content released is as good as ever, so what if there's a gimmick for treasure hunter each week. They wouldn't have it if no one paid for it or wanted to pay for it.

12-Sep-2014 04:35:01 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2014 04:35:37 by PeteVenerate

Hank Rearden

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PeteVenerate said :
Regardless of morality, more money = more employees = more content. I agree, it was silly when they threw sizzling summer in our face as an excuse for no actual content for an entire summer, but the journey from 2008 - now has made runescape a far more enjoyable game in my opinion. The monthly content released is as good as ever, so what if there's a gimmick for treasure hunter each week. They wouldn't have it if no one paid for it or wanted to pay for it.

The number in parenthesis is the number of quests that had been released before September 30th of that year. This allows us to compare earlier years to 2014, which will not have any new quests released in this month. This list includes quest reworks (ex: Demon Slayer Rework).

2014: Unknown (5)

2013: 6 (4)

2012 (the year MTX were released): 15 (10)

2011: 9 (8)

2010: 12 (10)

2009: 13 (10)

2008: 19 (16)

2007: 14 (12)

2006: 21 (15)

2005: 28 (21)

2004: 15 (8)

2003: 11 (10)

2002: 23 (20)

2001: 17 (17)


More content indeed.

12-Sep-2014 04:37:21

Angel Savior

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I will miss you Mod Mark... :D Thank you for everything Runescape made greater future :D

Thank you Mod Mark made me feeling better for No Bots, New City, New Skills, New Bonds, and New E.O.C

Thank you Mod Mark, Runescape is saved

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12-Sep-2014 04:37:44 - Last edited on 12-Sep-2014 04:39:10 by Angel Savior

Le Jakes

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Sad to see you're leaving Mark, you've been around since I started playing the game. I would like to thank you for what your have bought to the table over the last seven years, where I have enjoyed the content with the fullest appreciation from you and your team at Jagex.

I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavours where it may lead you down the road to your new job! I hope the colleagues at your new workplace are just as good as the gig at jagex and just as inviting!

Thanks for everything once again Mark,

-Nathan. Ugh Runescapes filthy casual, lynch me now :)

12-Sep-2014 04:38:01

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