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PAT-LAUGH

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Allow abstain. And then what you should do is put the % of yes and no on 100%, and if yes has 75% then the update would be applied.

Example:
60% Yes
15% No
25% Abstain

75% Yes/no
Multiply 60% by 100%/75% for Yes
Multiply 15% by 100%/75% for No
Gives: 80% Yes, 20% No.

I believe this would be the best solution. If an update really is horrible then I think that people would vote No instead of abstaining, so what I suggest wouldn't make bad updates go easily through. For me, abstainers are basically saying "I don't care/mind", so they can be ignored.

This can be simplified as: The ratio between Yes and No must me great that 3 to 1.

15-Mar-2013 00:32:48

Qeltar
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Tyria: Fair enough.

I think a lot of people are underestimating the damage that will be done to the game if F2P-style is not put in. A lot of people will leave. It will be worse for non-PKers than if they put the worlds in.

In other words, the people who voted no, voted against their own best interests.

15-Mar-2013 00:49:16

Angel2D4

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"In other words, the people who voted no, voted against their own best interests."

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Qeltar, I agree with that completely.

I also understand how someone could ignore that point and actually get to a point where that was the lesser issue.

The weeks of insults flying from every corner of these forums, are now showing consequences.. that might be hard to live with, for some... and the insults continue... while actually wanting.. hoping even.. that people who haven't yet voted can be convinced... by insults? To vote in favor of... anything?

That's the part I'm having difficulty seeing the "logic" in. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

15-Mar-2013 00:56:04

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Queltar,

Assuming that everyone who voted no, weren't voters who voted just for their hatred for OSRS, I will have to disagree. The purpose of voting, in my personal opinion anyway is for everyone to demonstrate their right to have a say based on their personal preference and point of view.

15-Mar-2013 00:57:00

mr togue
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what freaken planet do you people live on?

what school system allowed you people to pass to the next grade to come up with such creative math...

i mean really????? how does one come up with such bovine waste?

first lets get some thing very very clear... for those that think 51% is not the majority...

gonna use simple numbers for those that seem to be math handycapped..

simple yes no example... ( no abstains bovine waste)

out of 100 people.... if 51 people voted yes for some thing then that means 49 voted no... so.... 51>49.... which means 51% of the 100 person population voted yes

seeing 51 is greater then 49 then that means the majority of the people voted yes ...

unbelieveable that some one you can not get that math..

i truly think the 75 % crap is exactly that.. its crap... its a cop out for jagex...

if the majority of runescape 07 players wants some thing then.. what is the problem?
there is no need to create special math to get some thing passed... its very easy..

100k of players means 51% of the vote needs to be a yes to pass it..

as for the abstain issue.. sorry people that too is bovine waste... there is no need to have a abstain vote.. if you want it vote yes... if not vote no...

as for people asking why vote this way or that way it doesnt matter why.. the fact that they did should be enough...

i believe any vote with 51% or higher should pass... including the f2p and i dont even support it ... but i would support after the voteing being done because thats how mr togue rolls...


edited to add.. in my example above i used 100 people.. in the 100k... it would mean 50,001 would have to vote yes.. ( to clearify )

15-Mar-2013 01:02:47 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2013 01:24:55 by mr togue

Qeltar
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Well, I'm still waiting for a reasonable explanation as to why people would vote no on that.

If it wasn't something they were going to use, they wouldn't have to use it.

And by voting it down, it will harm everyone long-term.

15-Mar-2013 01:07:09

Angel2D4

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@togue

You can't honestly dump that 75% requirement on jagex. I was here for every post of the thread discussing it.. many people were suggesting numbers even higher than 75% but the general player input was in agreement on 75%.

I'm all for blaming jagex when they do something wrong.. but they listened to the players in forums that day.. and you want to criticize and call them names for that?

That's messed up.

Yes, they should have put it to a vote for the percentage required.. and still should.. but they can't be faulted for listening to the players. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

15-Mar-2013 01:12:13

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Truthfully Queltar, I can't give you one, being as I voted yes, for both f2p and roofs. But as far as I'm concerned the 4000 people who did vote no, had their own specific reason. Which is the point I was getting at.

I do however feel that ultimately decisions like the roof being visible or not for instance, shouldn't be put up for poll as they are something that is optional within the game.

EDIT:
At mr Togue,
To support what Tyria pointed out, the 75% was all player based. I agree with you as well, majority, no matter the percentage should rule, but players are obviously so scared that new content and updates will ruin the game so much, that they wanted, and requested a high percentage of votes in order to hopefully reduce the amount of updates that actually get voted in.

15-Mar-2013 01:12:38 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2013 01:15:31 by World View

mr togue
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sorry i disagree..

jagex should have just made it the majority rules... 51% and stuck to it... by allowing it to be 75% they now have a legit reason to go against what the majority wants... by claiming it didnt get to the 75% mark..

simple fact... runescape players hurt jagex because jagex didnt listen...

jagex made it up to the players by bringing back the 07 server... with the promise it will be the players determining the out come of the 07 server... but raising the vote bar to 75% gives jagex the abiltiy to go against the players desires...

so in effect... nullifying the agreement with the players..

15-Mar-2013 01:17:43 - Last edited on 15-Mar-2013 01:19:34 by mr togue

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