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Angel2D4

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Page 18, post 2 is a prime example of "reason" people vote "no" for something like the f2p issue.

Y'all can't honestly expect that weeks of name-calling is going to go in your favor...

edit to add:

"I think the F2P PK worlds vote should be overridden. It is very close to 75%, and frankly, I don't think it should have been put to a vote at all."

That quote from Qeltar on page 19 (I think) is something that simply cannot be acceptable.. unless everyone is prepared to accept all votes over 51% as "close enough".

If you bump one over, calling it "close enough", how many MORE would be bumped over because they too were "close enough"?

Jagex determined that 75% based on player input. If anything, any change at all to that percentage should be put to a vote (and the current criteria should be used for it). "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

14-Mar-2013 23:15:16 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2013 23:19:31 by Angel2D4

Angel2D4

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@Tyria Mine

oh yeah!!! well you're a potty-head!!


obv troll... sry.

Yeah.. "nice".. and when I vote "no" on something you want passed... don't go cryin' on forums that there's no reason for people to vote no.


edit to add:

I just demonstrated the "reason" people actually DO have, for voting no. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

14-Mar-2013 23:20:43 - Last edited on 14-Mar-2013 23:22:08 by Angel2D4

Philphish

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Don't forget what you're doing with these polls.

You currently have 100% playing, and generally happy.
You're going to accept votes @ 75% yes which will split
25% of the community off. Maybe they'll just be upset, or mad, but many like myself, will quit.
So now you're down to 75%. But, each different vote will cut off a few more and a few more and a few more people.
So after poll one you're already going to be back in a situation where 50% of the community is all: "All yeaaahh! Yay I'm part of this half and I'm happy!"
and you have the other half of the community that's angry as hell at you, and the OSRS community. Good fight... it's now the EOC community situation that you've been in for many years.




Yes. Because this is how it works whenever someone votes "no" for something.

Historically, all legislative actions which have not received unanimous support yet have passed anyways have resulted in the the dissidents seceding, leading to the 12,230,408 sovereign nations which exist on earth today.

What even is compromise?

14-Mar-2013 23:23:27

Lit

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Can you please add the option to right-click kick from the chat interface for clan chat? Currently we have to scroll through the list to kick someone and it's hard because the list isn't even completely in alphabetical order...and kicking that way makes it so much easier to miss and accidently kick someone else if another person joins or leaves.

14-Mar-2013 23:23:54

Qeltar
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"That quote from Qeltar on page 19 (I think) is something that simply cannot be acceptable.. unless everyone is prepared to accept all votes over 51% as "close enough"."

I understand and agree with this point.

But this should never have been made a poll anyway. It just made it possible for a selfish minority to deny a segment of the community something they want, even though it doesn't affect the people who voted against it.

That's short-sighted and, well, just not right.

14-Mar-2013 23:25:19

Angel2D4

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Qeltar, there's plenty that is "just not right".

It's not right that people who absolutely hate '07 have a vote concerning '07, at all (imo), but they can.. and with little effort.

It's not right that jagex allows cross game trading.. but they do.

Something else.. that's "just not right", is to alter "rules" in this situation, without a vote on that change.

Jagex listened to the community on what percentage was "reasonable" for passing the vote.. tossing out words like "overwhelming majority". No matter how you look at it, 51% is NOT an overwhelming majority and...

Because the 75% has already been established... jagex should not change that without a vote of the players (using the 75% already established) partly because it makes them out to be liars, and partly because they said they would put issues to the players to decide.. the players -should- be the ones deciding that.. not jagex.

I understand that you believe it simply shouldn't have been put to a vote at all.. but it was.. and that, was a decision jagex made..

My point still stands.. if this community wants approval (of 75%) then they are going to need to try "reasonable" and CIVIL interactions, first. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

14-Mar-2013 23:32:32

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