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Rishinger IV

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Webmaster453 said :
Roddy Piper said :
It shouldn't be hard to explain the joke. Who or what is being made fun of? It's absurdist.
What's funny is the OP says that Dad shouldn't know what toxic masculinity is and that's the joke.

Modern grammar is so bad it seems no one angry noticed it's in normal broken troll English. Corrections in brackets.

Hello!

Dad('s) line go(es) back very far, we (are) famed for toothy troll babies! But (this) tradition end(s) with me. After Dad (fought) tiny human, (I) realize(d) that fighting (is) really caused by toxic masculinity. (It) is rampant in troll culture! Baby troll needs (a) father figure. So (my) son (is) named ‘Mam’ instead.

Here's the main part that annoys me, with something like that they say "it's just a joke!"

Yet they turn around after that and make it so anyone can beat sir leye in recruitment drive without going to the makeover mage first because it's "discriminating" if they don't and make it so anyone can join any dwarven consortium to stop "segregation" and rename all the NPC's in the ali quest because it's "racist" despite the reason being that the mayor left his entire fortune to his nephew ali, so in response everyone legally named themselves ali to try and claim the inheritance he left.

Jagex make this grand talk of changing the game to be "inclusive" but it seems like they only want to change the game to appease certain types of people and everyone else doesn't matter.


tl;dr
What annoys me is how much they've changed things in the game under the guise of being "inclusive" yet see no problem with saying "all men are toxic, so to fix this all children should have female names."

10-Apr-2023 15:43:31

Tenebri
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Rishinger IV said :


Jagex make this grand talk of changing the game to be "inclusive" but it seems like they only want to change the game to appease certain types of people and everyone else doesn't matter.




who doesnt matter?

it seems to be with what they are doing now they are including more people

and how are the ones that you feel "dont matter" should be included?
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10-Apr-2023 15:45:50 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2023 15:46:57 by Tenebri

Rishinger IV

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Webmaster453 said :

It's been a long while since I did that Troll Love story quest but it's all about teaching a male troll to treat a female troll better than a bigger more masculine troll which I believe the quest had the masculine male troll be toxic to the female.


But then you have quests like my arm's big adventure where all my arm cares about is farming and all burnt meat cares about is cooking and gives you his favorite dish as thanks for helping his friend.
Hell, in making friends with my arm you've got the snow trolls and the only violent one you talk to is mom.
The only other trolls that attack do so because an unknown intruder is in their village and that's even the same with troll stronghold.

Hell, out of every named troll you talk to in quests 90% of them are not aggressive but are nice instead!
Even as a 'joke' it doesn't work because the majority of trolls you talk to are actually nice/non violent.

10-Apr-2023 15:49:42

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Rishinger IV said :

Even as a 'joke' it doesn't work because the majority of trolls you talk to are actually nice/non violent.

toxic masculinity, isnt just about violence.
so yes the joke still works.

Tenebri said :
Rishinger IV said :


Jagex make this grand talk of changing the game to be "inclusive" but it seems like they only want to change the game to appease certain types of people and everyone else doesn't matter.




who doesnt matter?

it seems to be with what they are doing now they are including more people

and how are the ones that you feel "dont matter" should be included?
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10-Apr-2023 16:00:38 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2023 18:09:20 by Tenebri

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Immortalized said :
my understanding from tumblr is that toxic masculinity is definitely about violence

this just shows tumblr is not a good source for information, why would you go to tumblr for a definition. eek

here

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-is-toxic-masculinity#:~:text=safer%2C%20healthier%20society.-,What%20Is%20Toxic%20Masculinity%3F,in%20itself%20is%20inherently%20bad.

What Is Toxic Masculinity?
Toxic masculinity is an attitude or set of social guidelines stereotypically associated with manliness that often have a negative impact on men, women, and society in general.

The term "toxic masculinity" isn’t meant to imply that the idea of masculinity in itself is inherently bad. Instead, it’s meant to point out that certain behaviors and ways of thinking often associated with masculinity, from mental and physical toughness to sexism and homophobia, have a negative and often dangerous impact on the world.
While you may think of the term “toxic masculinity” as a modern buzzword, it’s been around for several decades. The term originally came about during the late 20th century men’s movements to describe narrow ideas of masculinity that were holding men back instead of empowering them. They considered toxic masculinity a characteristic of immature men who had not yet found their deep, spiritual masculinity.


hopefully this helps
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10-Apr-2023 18:09:01 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2023 18:20:03 by Tenebri

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Immortalized said :
I have never heard of this term prior and pretty sure most people use the modern definition

also I think a lot of people associate violence as a manliness stereotype (they are dumb)

i agree that is dumb, which is why we use the definition i posted. not the one you found in tumblr

i would recommend going to the site i posted, i cant post it all on as a post. :L
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10-Apr-2023 19:45:22 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2023 19:46:37 by Tenebri

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