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ErkalEtruria
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Am I to understand nobody got compensated for the removal of RSC? Did everyone's stuff get lost in oblivion? That is f'd up if you ask me.
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21-Jan-2019 17:06:59

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
DeviousMud is still up on Runescape Wiki now too. Of course RSC is still up on Runescape Wiki.

Nobody care to remove obsolete things from any Wikis anyway, not just Jagex's. Contributors just don't waste their time adding to dead pages though, typically they let the useless dead pages RIP unless their existences break the respective Wiki's rules. :D

Ever considered the possibility that its kept for historical reference?
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22-Jan-2019 01:35:05

ErkalEtruria
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Draco Burnz said :
ErkalEtruria said :
Am I to understand nobody got compensated for the removal of RSC? Did everyone's stuff get lost in oblivion? That is f'd up if you ask me.


Not really as jagex gave ppl 3 prior chances to get their items transferred so if you chose not thats on you.
This doesn't apply to me since I transfered in 2004. Everyone that transfered back then would still have a copy of their account and all skills from before they transfered so they wouldn't have to start RSC over nor would they be upset (minus the items).
I am guessing this is only an issue to people who did not transfer over in 2004 and did not during the 3 chances that were given. Wouldn't it have made sense for Jagex to have just transfered all of accounts over to RS3? I don't see why anyone would be given an option. I do agree it is their loss for not transferring during the time given.
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23-Jan-2019 00:24:53

Rob
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ErkalEtruria said :
Draco Burnz said :
ErkalEtruria said :
Am I to understand nobody got compensated for the removal of RSC? Did everyone's stuff get lost in oblivion? That is f'd up if you ask me.


Not really as jagex gave ppl 3 prior chances to get their items transferred so if you chose not thats on you.
This doesn't apply to me since I transfered in 2004. Everyone that transfered back then would still have a copy of their account and all skills from before they transfered so they wouldn't have to start RSC over nor would they be upset (minus the items).
I am guessing this is only an issue to people who did not transfer over in 2004 and did not during the 3 chances that were given. Wouldn't it have made sense for Jagex to have just transfered all of accounts over to RS3? I don't see why anyone would be given an option. I do agree it is their loss for not transferring during the time given.


I would think that had players known in 2004 that the game would be closed down (after being told it wouldn't), they'd have likely transferred their items.

But no, there was no compensation. Compensation isn't even what I'm interested in, I'd like my game back.

27-Jan-2019 04:59:17

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My first question would be was there an offer to transfer items from RSC to RS3 before the actual shutdown? For anyone saying this wouldn't have been fair for rares, how do you think all those discontinued items came into RS2 to begin with? Yeah they mighta had other chances, but they shoulda been given one before shutting it down.

It ain't just about the rares, but as stated there are items of sentimental value that have no actual value people would rather have been able to keep.

I understand you want the actual game back, but all games die eventually. Runescape is no exception, neither the main or old school versions. Seems kinda shitty that they wouldn't allow you to personally maintain a server although my guess is it's because they highly doubted you were serious.

Maybe they did, but idk.

With OSRS coming to mobile, it's inevitable they're going to add MTX there as well. Yeah they said they wouldn't, but come on they've said that about a helluva lot of things. The instant-gratification generation that dominates the gaming industry currently as a whole simply shuns games that can't be given an advantage without paying to speed up the progress.

I'm not condoning P2W mechanics, simply stating that it's less on the developers and more on the players that wanna rocket up to the top of the pile and brag about it to everyone else. This is the mentality that has warped how games are developed.

But anyway...

I really do feel for you about them taking the game away. To me it seems the least they could do since they've basically thrown it away is allow the people that still wanna play it actually maintain and run a version for themselves; however this is rarely done in the gaming industry as even though there might be good intentions they don't want someone else to potentially profit from their own product.

Whilst it might seem like I'm agreeing with the naysayers, I actually agree with your stance. Just wanted to say my own thoughts on the matter ;)

27-Jan-2019 05:46:27 - Last edited on 27-Jan-2019 05:49:39 by David James

Rob
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David,

Yes, when RuneScape 2 was released in 2004, all of your stats/items were auto-transferred to the new version of the game. Many players didn't like the drastic change of game mechanics, and complained. They decided to allow players of RuneScape (1) to transfer their items back from RuneScape 2 for a short period of time, and assured the players that did decide to transfer back and continue to play RuneScape (1), the game would remain open and preserved for those that preferred RuneScape (1).

My personal opinion on the transfer matter is pretty simple; had players known Jagex would go back on their word and turn off the servers as they did, they certainly wouldn't have even bothered transferring their items back to RuneScape (1), much less devote an additional 15 years of training.

But, as said, the game is my main concern. I've got all I could ever need on other versions of the game, but Classic was the only game I can say I'll always be loyal to.

I sure miss it. :(

27-Jan-2019 06:44:23

David James

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I meant before the actual closing;

I totally get it's about the game itself, I was just personally curious if they offered it or not. I started shortly after the switch to RS2 (April 2004) and my only personal experience with Classic was only popping on randomly at the beginning to check it out, and then once during one of the "Open" periods.

TBH I was quite surprised to learn that Classic was actually closed for good. I mean I know it didn't really profit or anything, but overall it was a pretty dick move considering both a player offered to pay costs of maintaining a single server AND since they've just discarded it, did not offer up the source code so someone could maintain a private server if they so wished it.

Not to mention it couldn't have been hemorrhaging THAT much cash compared to the other two game version's profit margins.

It's not like you (or anyone) would have honestly made a whole lot of money for it if they worked out some sort of membership fee, as I'm guessing you'd have prolly just ate the costs yourself. Even if they did, Jagex could have pulled a Nintendo and sued for those profits/shutdown of servers themselves.

I'm on your side, I just had a few random personal questions as to exactly how it was handled was all. It appears to me they valued a few thousand a month over player loyalty.

It's one thing imo to choose millions (in the form of MTX/Raising membership fees) and it's a whole other bullshit excuse to cut what was probably equal to only one employee's monthly salary. (or a couple, not sure how many servers were currently available, or even less than one as I'm not sure how much the employees actually make)

27-Jan-2019 20:17:35

Rob
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@David James,

No, the only transfer ever offered was in 2004.

The way Jagex handled themselves in the closedown is what really showed their colors. To the point where a few player mods gave up their titles in protest.

The “Announcement” was made that the game was to be shut down for good. Of course, this caused chaos among players. Hundreds of questions were posted, and aside from the “The game’s closing” post, we were ghosted for over 2 weeks. Not one word from any Jagex employee.

Just a really distasteful way of doing business, and a distasteful company choice all together.

31-Jan-2019 12:35:57

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