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Telcis

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Rob said :
But, I feel for players that have been around all this time that literally got NOTHING from this. They couldn't even keep the items they picked up 17 years ago.
Memories and enjoyment aside, classic capes and veteran capes address the need you ask.

Adding a supply of holiday items to any of the current games would significantly harm the economies of those games and by extension the players.

With the current recognition of players who are veterans of time or classic players, the idea of bringing over an item which is worth the most amount of GP, seems to be for personal gain.

27-Aug-2018 13:15:15

Telcis

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I3l4ck De4th said :
100% agree once again Rob.
So many players had rares on the game, loyal customers who hung onto these items for all of these years. Then Jagex just deleted it all.
I don't think many of the people commenting on this thread were RSC veterans like yourself so they don't understand the impact closing RSC has made.
As both a veteran player (15+) and a classic player I can confirm that you are wrong.

27-Aug-2018 13:16:37

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2010

Rob

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The majority of those I'm speaking for wouldn't sell them regardless of their value, so no, I'm not speaking for personal gain.

They were also the most valuable items on Classic. If they wanted to sell them for money, or even trade them for money on a newer game, they would have done it long ago.

The amount of rares left on Classic wouldn't be enough to effect the market long term. A blip panic sell would likely occur, but an addition of a few hundred rares to a game that contains likely tens of thousands would be far too insignificant to worry about.

What you're basically saying is it wouldn't be fair for people that actually participated in holiday events 14-17 years ago to be able to keep the items they were awarded for their participation ....

.....Because it might have an effect on the current owners, whom the majority weren't there, and who likely only see the items as monetary show-off value?

You seem to be under the assumption that rares on Classic were worth absolutely nothing, and the rares on RS3 are worth everything, even though they came from the same source, the same dates, and were given the option to be on separate games in 2004.

It's just untrue. Agree to disagree, but it seems anyone who is against a transfer of holiday items are only against it for their own personal gain.

Are you worried about your precious valuable RS3 rares, Telcis? So worried that you're completely alright with hundreds of players to go from rare owners to completely broke with nothing overnight?

Who here is truly greedy?

27-Aug-2018 15:05:10 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2018 15:08:14 by Rob

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Draco Burnz

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Rob said :
The amount of rares left on Classic wouldn't be enough to effect the market long term. A blip panic sell would likely occur, but an addition of a few hundred rares to a game that contains likely tens of thousands would be far too insignificant to worry about.

That isnt the point.

The point is jagex give ppl enough time to transfer items when they could.

You chose not to so you're sol.

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27-Aug-2018 22:27:41

Telcis

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Rob said :

The amount of rares left on Classic wouldn't be enough to effect the market long term. A blip panic sell would likely occur, but an addition of a few hundred rares to a game that contains likely tens of thousands would be far too insignificant to worry about.

Except that's not how markets work.
They work from people's idea of the value of the item. If Jagex reintroduces a closed off supply, that would have terrible effects on the worth of the item.
Simply because it shows Jagex would be no longer considering that it is a limited supply item, they are adding more!

This doesn't have to be true, people just need to think it and it will hurt prices.

While there are some who would have been from the original event, there are many who would have missed out and subsequently bought one. As you said earlier, its the only item to have kept its value.
I do have an alternative for you, the other holiday events. Those events had items which are now found in Django's chest. These were a different style of holiday items because they were not tradable.

Do you have any of those?

28-Aug-2018 00:33:12

Telcis

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Rob said :

Are you worried about your precious valuable RS3 rares, Telcis? So worried that you're completely alright with hundreds of players to go from rare owners to completely broke with nothing overnight?

Who here is truly greedy?
The person who is to gain from this going ahead is you. So I'd say you have more reason to be greedy.
I don't have a partyhat, which means that should the market drop it would be easier for me to obtain one. Which is counterproductive for your argument of me being the greedy one.

Those players who were rare owners knew that their game was closing months in advance.
Those players made the choice to stay on a game that wouldn't be updated and unsupported over the years. This was the inevitable end to that choice that they made.

28-Aug-2018 00:36:03

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2010

Rob

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Item worth is only 1 of the few points I'm speaking about, but it's what you're focusing on.

The items were sentimental and they should have stayed with the owner.

28-Aug-2018 01:42:55

Telcis

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Rob said :
Item worth is only 1 of the few points I'm speaking about, but it's what you're focusing on.

The items were sentimental and they should have stayed with the owner.
They have, they will forever be on your RSC account.

You seem to ignore the classic cape and veteran capes. Why?

28-Aug-2018 02:01:03

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2010

Rob

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Telcis said :
Rob said :
Item worth is only 1 of the few points I'm speaking about, but it's what you're focusing on.

The items were sentimental and they should have stayed with the owner.
They have, they will forever be on your RSC account.

You seem to ignore the classic cape and veteran capes. Why?

Because the Classic cape and the Veteran capes came out on a game we didn't even care about?

I'm not going to feed a troll all night. It's rants and I'm ranting.

The rares on RS3 are the same rares on Classic. Nothing can change that, including the version of the game they ended up on. If 1,000 Christmas crackers were obtained during the holiday event in 2001, and 800 of the 1,000 ended up on RS2, it shouldn't make the remaining 200 any less sentimental.

28-Aug-2018 02:42:26

Telcis

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Dismissing my posts as trolling simply because you disagree seems like a cop-out.

If you don't care about the veteran or classic capes why do you care about the Halloween mask?
Sentimentality doesn't seem to be the right answer.

28-Aug-2018 03:22:30

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