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Wilf
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"If Mod Kari's sticky is indeed removed, what will be used as proof that political topics have been recently outlawed?"


the fact mods say it isn't allowed seems to have been acceptable, in regards to anything not specifically mentioned as not being allowed, since forever pretty much


and if needed for a questioning user link to the thread/quote a post as they won't be off the forums for a while



as for the locked thread being visible I think we know the solution to that lol :D

19-Aug-2020 21:48:14 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2020 21:48:24 by Wilf

Mrs Ana

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I would be all right with something like that because I saw Mod Kari's post; however, you may not say the same about people in the future that were not present when this was outlawed. Even if we were to go by what the Forum Moderators say, I still think that it should be cemented somewhere so that both players and Forum Moderators can direct anyone to such a place.

Where would you go to once the thread falls off the Forums? As for the locked threads being visible, I do not think hiding them solves it as we are still able to see the message
" This thread has been hidden "
:P .

19-Aug-2020 21:56:26

Dong U Dead

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FiFi LaFeles said :
Personally I have no feelings one way or the other about such a thread coming into being, or not.

I don't view the current way as being spammy - the threads fade away on their own quickly and don't (imo) have such an impact that they are keeping more 'important' threads off page one or two.
More popular threads are posted on frequently enough to keep themselves in the limelight.

It would only become a problem if people took it upon themselves to deliberately cause mischief by making RIP threads about persons who are virtually unknown by others, or entirely unknown (i.e. RIP George - my second cousin's adopted son ... kind of thing....).

On the other hand it would keep all the dead people in one place and dispense with any annoyance for people who find RIP threads to be an issue. Although I daresay some folk would/might see it as inappropriate to have an Obituary thread, for this or that reason.

So, uh, whatever really.

Fifi has said it all.

I would prefer it to be as it is now, I don't believe there need to be a sticky, if one comes about so be it.
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20-Aug-2020 00:14:51

2_Tron

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RIP-threads throughout Off Topic are just 'reminders' of people that had a truly great/fantastic influence at a generation of players or parts of it. These are not truly meant as 'Obituaries' but more or less a touch of remembering the "Good Old Days' once again.

Throughout The Internet and all over the world many many 'Obituaries' can be found that do a far better job than what you are trying to accomplish. Off-Topic doesn't need another sticky of some kind, let players post whatever they like to post as long as it does fit "All Rules & regulations" it is fine and doesn't need a change or a new range of locks.

It is far more important to make The RSOF welcome to any player rather than be pushed into another template of any kind that makes them feel pretty uncomfortable.

20-Aug-2020 10:41:11

Tuffty
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2_Tron said :
RIP-threads throughout Off Topic are just 'reminders' of people that had a truly great/fantastic influence at a generation of players or parts of it. These are not truly meant as 'Obituaries' but more or less a touch of remembering the "Good Old Days' once again.

Throughout The Internet and all over the world many many 'Obituaries' can be found that do a far better job than what you are trying to accomplish. Off-Topic doesn't need another sticky of some kind, let players post whatever they like to post as long as it does fit "All Rules & regulations" it is fine and doesn't need a change or a new range of locks.

It is far more important to make The RSOF welcome to any player rather than be pushed into another template of any kind that makes them feel pretty uncomfortable.

I like that.

Thanks 2_Tron. ;) Great comments.
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20-Aug-2020 12:07:26

Mrs Ana

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Wilf said :
yer at some point it can be put in the CoC



fmods can use the bump button on other threads
I hope that it does get added to the Code of Conduct or at least to the Off-Topic FSRs so that Mod Kari's sticky can go away, as you wish :P .

Edit: How about something like this, Wilf?

"Off Topic
Non-RuneScape related discussion; politics not allowed."

20-Aug-2020 14:30:18 - Last edited on 20-Aug-2020 14:43:04 by Mrs Ana

Krystl
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Hi Mrs Ana,

I can fully understand your sentiments and your reasoning makes total sense for the creation of an "Orbituaries - Your Condolences" sticky thread. Perhaps it could be done when a really famous celebrity dies where many threads are created for the same person, or everyone could be directed to the same thread in that situation; however, I think it is best to keep it the way it is with people making their own threads to commemorate the loss of a loved one, or pet.animal, or famous identity, or when someone special to them dies.

From experience - (the getting help for the Shield of Arrav sticky in the old quest forum comes to mind as an example), people tend to make threads anyway, and not use the sticky provided. Having someone close die, or pet, animal, or famous person or friend, or anyone close is an extremely devastating thing, and when a person decides to create a commemorative thread, their grief alone is enough to make them overlook a sticky thread and make their own.

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20-Aug-2020 19:24:22

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The even greater devastating thing, which to me seems very insensitive in this situation, is because there is a sticky thread, these threads will be locked directing the person to post in the sticky thread, and adding considerably to their already devastating grief. Behind every thread is a real person with real feelings who may feel even more hurt and upset in an already upsetting situation when their thread is locked. To the person it would feel uncaring, and dismissal, and lacking understanding, and disregard of the grief and loss the person feels.

A person who is grieving is more sensitive to the thread being locked especially given the devastating circumstance in which the thread was created. It is much kinder and with greater compassion, understanding and empathy to allow a thread to be created, and the thread to run it's natural course, and as Tuffty has already said, the amount of threads are not overwhelming; but a little empathy, compassion and understanding can go a long way.
Just my perspective,
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20-Aug-2020 19:24:40

Maynne

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For the record, there is no rule in Off Topic forum that prohibits posting a thread commemorating the death of your dear pet. Personally, I think it is a worth while thread in itself - many of us are pet lovers.

20-Aug-2020 19:28:00

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