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snowboard
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HeroicSnorro said :



But what if we were to take relative polar coordinates to describe the suspension in time coordinate in space? This would mean that the radius of the universe sphere will always amount to 1, even if it expands through time. This means that relative lengths will grow as the universe expands (0.1 universe radius will amount to a longer absolute distance 14 billion years into this universe than 0.1 universe radius of when it was just 15 minutes old). If we were then to apply this phenomenon to an object which is put into stasis for ten minutes something really freaky happens: the object will have grown proportional to 10 minutes worth of universal expansion.
Unfortunately Earth does not remain at the same relative polar coordinate with respect to the absolute centre of the universe due to the aforementioned effects, so if you were to pop something into stasis on Earth you will need a proper spaceship to recover your object I think.

A very interesting thought experiment indeed! If I made a mistake in my reasoning somewhere please let me know!


Hmmm that second part sounds a bit odd. The universe is expanding but not the objects within it. Consider a ship in a lake, where the ship is about 1/1000in size of the lake. Now there is a flood from a nearby river causing the banks of the river to move outwards. Let's say the lake has expanded outwards by a factor 2. That means the ship will now be 1/2000the size of the lake, however that does not mean the ship has suddenly shrunk.

25-Feb-2017 23:06:38

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On topic, as mentioned before, two many undefined initial conditions and variables supplied by OP to give a senseble answer. But in the end I'd say the answer is you cannot know at this moment. Right now time travel is not even remotely possible and we know almost nothing about how it would work, so the implications are just guesses. It's basically if time travel would work via method A then the implications would he this and that. Until we understand the concepts and relation between time, energy, space(movement, speed, form etc) and possibly at this point unknown other factors betger, there is no answer to this question.

However you could make a (thought)model where you scrap a bunch of variables or add certain simplifications and/or assumptions tomake it a bit more workable.

25-Feb-2017 23:15:24

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While I agree it's not plausible, I came to that conclusion when you describe both the location and the dimensions of this stasis object in relative polar coordinates. If something like this were possible I would personally think the first situation would be more plausible.

Then again, quantum mechanics are weird, so yeah.

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26-Feb-2017 01:07:10 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2017 01:58:12 by HeroicSnorro

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16-Mar-2017 01:41:34

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