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Baknoob
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An interesting thing to think about is: why, if we found out we'd die in a year or so, would we try to 'live' more right now? Do more things? Is that not a perpetual possibility, and are we too lazy to grasp the things we really should?
Personally, I'm just waiting excitedly for scientific advances that let us know what we previously couldn't know. I've never been interested in exploring parts the planet because I think the greater surprises are in things that no one has ever seen or been able to see.
Singularity said :
I think by immortality they just mean stopping the ageing process that usually kills us if nothing else does. I highly doubt that by 2045, we'd reach true immortality (where nothing can kill us). A true immortal race would be a type 2 civilisation according to the Kardashev scale - for a civilisation of this type, nothing known to science can wipe them out. We're currently type 0 and are expected to reach type 1 by 2100.
Personally, I guess it'll be cool to live forever. I'd love to see all the technological and scientific advancements as time goes on. I'm deeply interested in all that stuff. It'd be nice to live through all that.
I'm definitely with you on that one. I just spent way too long reading about the feasibility of a Dyson Sphere. I wonder what the world will look like if it gets to that point where it'll be economically beneficial to do.
One of the things I've thought about is what it would be like to live on a planet that wasn't fortunate enough to have the resources to send anything out of its atmosphere. It makes me wonder what kind of conditions would be required for a planet to get to a point where it has life intelligent enough to be aware of the possibility of space travel, but also that its available resources wouldn't allow it. What would the lifetime of that planet be like?
An interesting thing to think about is: why, if we found out we'd die in a year or so, would we try to 'live' more right now? Do more things? Is that not a perpetual possibility, and are we too lazy to grasp the things we really should?
Personally, I'm just waiting excitedly for scientific advances that let us know what we previously couldn't know. I've never been interested in exploring parts the planet because I think the greater surprises are in things that no one has ever seen or been able to see.
Singularity said :
I think by immortality they just mean stopping the ageing process that usually kills us if nothing else does. I highly doubt that by 2045, we'd reach true immortality (where nothing can kill us). A true immortal race would be a type 2 civilisation according to the Kardashev scale - for a civilisation of this type, nothing known to science can wipe them out. We're currently type 0 and are expected to reach type 1 by 2100.
Personally, I guess it'll be cool to live forever. I'd love to see all the technological and scientific advancements as time goes on. I'm deeply interested in all that stuff. It'd be nice to live through all that.
I'm definitely with you on that one. I just spent way too long reading about the feasibility of a Dyson Sphere. I wonder what the world will look like if it gets to that point where it'll be economically beneficial to do.
One of the things I've thought about is what it would be like to live on a planet that wasn't fortunate enough to have the resources to send anything out of its atmosphere. It makes me wonder what kind of conditions would be required for a planet to get to a point where it has life intelligent enough to be aware of the possibility of space travel, but also that its available resources wouldn't allow it. What would the lifetime of that planet be like?
Blasty
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21-May-2016 08:18:34
Singularity
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The only issue with being immortal (true immortality) is: what if you got fed of and actually wanted to die? Living for so long is bound to have negative effects on the human mind. While we fear Death now and wish we could live forever, it'd probably get to the point where you'll actually wish you could die and finally rest. We tend to want what we can't get.
I haven't read anything about the possibility of absolute immortality before, and it would only take one exception for it to no longer be absolute. I think the kind of intelligent beings we would be talking about would have to be very specifically designed for it to survive things like extreme temperatures and pressures.
I'd imagine that if a civilization was advanced enough to create such a powerful level of immortality, it would also provide either some means to end your life, or some kind of alternative (something like drugs that change your memory or state of mind). Otherwise, someone who feels like they're being tortured like that could cause some risk to other people in the society...
Singularity said :
It'll start with stopping the ageing process (that naturally kills us), then move on to complete immunity from all viruses known to man and continue to move in those stages, getting better and better each time before finally reaching true immortality.
All this stuff interests me. Exciting times ahead for the future
I read recently about a macromolecule that was recently created that is designed to be able to attack any virus based on the features that are common between them all. Check this out:
http://secondnexus.com/technology-and-innovation/molecule-could-destroy-all-viruses/
I'm super excited about the future too :3
The only issue with being immortal (true immortality) is: what if you got fed of and actually wanted to die? Living for so long is bound to have negative effects on the human mind. While we fear Death now and wish we could live forever, it'd probably get to the point where you'll actually wish you could die and finally rest. We tend to want what we can't get.
I haven't read anything about the possibility of absolute immortality before, and it would only take one exception for it to no longer be absolute. I think the kind of intelligent beings we would be talking about would have to be very specifically designed for it to survive things like extreme temperatures and pressures.
I'd imagine that if a civilization was advanced enough to create such a powerful level of immortality, it would also provide either some means to end your life, or some kind of alternative (something like drugs that change your memory or state of mind). Otherwise, someone who feels like they're being tortured like that could cause some risk to other people in the society...
Singularity said :
It'll start with stopping the ageing process (that naturally kills us), then move on to complete immunity from all viruses known to man and continue to move in those stages, getting better and better each time before finally reaching true immortality.
All this stuff interests me. Exciting times ahead for the future
I read recently about a macromolecule that was recently created that is designed to be able to attack any virus based on the features that are common between them all. Check this out:
http://secondnexus.com/technology-and-innovation/molecule-could-destroy-all-viruses/
I'm super excited about the future too :3
Blasty
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21-May-2016 08:51:49
Ecruteak
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I wouldn't want to live forever. I'd get bored, and I'd fear being tortured for life, which would be a long time if you never die...
I'm happy with leaving and not returning. 100 years and I'm out.
Ecruteak said :
I'm okay with that then.
UNLESS I GET CAPTURED AND AM PREVENTED FROM KILLING MYSELF.
life is scary
That's fair enough
What makes you so worried that people are going to go round torturing everyone?
I wouldn't want to live forever. I'd get bored, and I'd fear being tortured for life, which would be a long time if you never die...
I'm happy with leaving and not returning. 100 years and I'm out.
Ecruteak said :
I'm okay with that then.
UNLESS I GET CAPTURED AND AM PREVENTED FROM KILLING MYSELF.
life is scary
That's fair enough
What makes you so worried that people are going to go round torturing everyone?
Blasty
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21-May-2016 08:56:29 - Last edited on 21-May-2016 09:25:46 by Blasty
Blasty
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That's fair enough What makes you so worried that people are going to go round torturing everyone?
We live in that kinda world.
On the topic of torture, if we were subject to it for a lifetime, would we not adapt to it? Like how you can't smell your aftershave/perfume after a little while because your senses (in this case your sense of smell) climatise to it, would your physical receptors that sense pain adapt to a life of perpetual pain?
Psychological pain would be almost inarguably more intolerable. But then again, there are cases of some subject to such degrees of psychological trauma that they become desensitised to various emotions, feelings, and so forth.
That's not what this thread is about, overly, but it could be linked to immortality.
I wonder what effect immortality, in general, would have on our general emotions. Probably the greatest cause of psychological stress is death (or the knowledge that it is impending; for example knowing a relative has a life-threatening illness, the death hasn't occurred, but it's still a psychologically draining even). But this wouldn't be the case in a life of immortality.
I guess next you'd look at heartbreak. But heartbreak is merely temporary in most cases, and perhaps heartbreak often occurs because you think you'd never meet someone like that again in your life , but this changes with immortality; suddenly you've got endless time to enjoy life with other people.
Perhaps love itself as a concept may change meaning - you marry someone (realistically), with the intention of being together for 50 odd years? If you married someone in a state of immortality, it's a different ball game to conceive of being with the same person for an infinite amount of time. That's pretty scary, actually.
That's fair enough What makes you so worried that people are going to go round torturing everyone?
We live in that kinda world.
On the topic of torture, if we were subject to it for a lifetime, would we not adapt to it? Like how you can't smell your aftershave/perfume after a little while because your senses (in this case your sense of smell) climatise to it, would your physical receptors that sense pain adapt to a life of perpetual pain?
Psychological pain would be almost inarguably more intolerable. But then again, there are cases of some subject to such degrees of psychological trauma that they become desensitised to various emotions, feelings, and so forth.
That's not what this thread is about, overly, but it could be linked to immortality.
I wonder what effect immortality, in general, would have on our general emotions. Probably the greatest cause of psychological stress is death (or the knowledge that it is impending; for example knowing a relative has a life-threatening illness, the death hasn't occurred, but it's still a psychologically draining even). But this wouldn't be the case in a life of immortality.
I guess next you'd look at heartbreak. But heartbreak is merely temporary in most cases, and perhaps heartbreak often occurs because you think you'd never meet someone like that again in your life , but this changes with immortality; suddenly you've got endless time to enjoy life with other people.
Perhaps love itself as a concept may change meaning - you marry someone (realistically), with the intention of being together for 50 odd years? If you married someone in a state of immortality, it's a different ball game to conceive of being with the same person for an infinite amount of time. That's pretty scary, actually.
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