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AoDude

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Llumys said :
My current "weight after prefer" formula is as follows:


=if(Tasks!C2 = "Prefer", C2*2, C2)

where Tasks!C2 is the action, and C2 is the weight after lock


I'm figuring out how I'd change to fit the roll mechanic you explained. Any help is appreciated.

Figuring for vip or not? If not...

if(task="Prefer",(Task Weight/Total Weight)*(1+((Total Weight-sumif(tasks," =P refer",weights))/total weight)), if(task="Complete", (task weight/total weight)*(sumif(tasks,"<>Prefer",weights)/total weight),"&quot ;) )

Remember that the chance of a given task is a complete task or a cancel task is exactly the same, given the same prefer/block list. The only difference is if we are adding it to the sum of all chances of doing tasks.

Edit: by total weight, I mean total unblocked weight*
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26-Jul-2015 04:24:41 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2015 05:40:20 by AoDude

AoDude

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Llumys said :
Just read your comment.

There's no prefer roll on the VIP? That's basically everything I had my friend do down the drain. That's hugely discouraging.

Feeling like deleting everything, and I was pretty proud of what I had. )v:

Wish Jagex were clearer with their mechanics...

Don't be discouraged, we are on major revision 3-4 on my formulas because new things come to light. It's just a part of doing what we do.
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26-Jul-2015 04:27:01

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Those kill rates per hour, is it melee style?

Also, are you including picking up drops in those kills/hour? I find it takes away 33-50% of my time for DPS when I pick up loot, even with Loot All and Loot Custom.

Finally, do we have any actual YouTube videos, lasting 1 hour (or proof otherwise), of the kill rates of Dark Beasts and Abyssal Demons?

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26-Jul-2015 04:44:27

AoDude

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Kags said :
Those kill rates per hour, is it melee style?

Also, are you including picking up drops in those kills/hour? I find it takes away 33-50% of my time for DPS when I pick up loot, even with Loot All and Loot Custom.

Finally, do we have any actual YouTube videos, lasting 1 hour (or proof otherwise), of the kill rates of Dark Beasts and Abyssal Demons?

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The style and method of slaying is on page 2 of the sheet. I am not sure whether lifer is including picking up drops or what... Lifer does all of the data collecting and kills per hour calcs. We have talked about including a way to separate out all 3 combat styles and derive xp from more collected kill rates, and then display xp in each ranged/mage/melee now that melee has superior rates in abyss with nox scythe...
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26-Jul-2015 04:50:07

Lifer
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The kills per hour are color coded.

Dark beasts and abyssal demons are with melee yes.

For dark beasts:

Auto refill cannon + Scythe (important to attempt to herd 3-4 dark beasts together) + supreme ovl + titan + curses as usual + quiver 4 (extra 5% damage) + Weapon poison++.

Weapon poison++ is really, really important - it adds about 100 kills per hour.

For abyssal demons:

Scythe (important to herd ~4-6 abyssal demons together) + brawler demon familiar + ring of fire scrolls + Supreme ovl + super prayer renewal + 3 super restore flasks + 3 spaces for crim and blue charm, and contract + mory legs 4.

Keep spamming summoning potions so the brawler demon can consistently spec. That set up gets around 950 kills per hour. With mask of abyss not yet transformed, it's 1030 kills per hour.

No video evidence, but I've been able to verify it myself.

26-Jul-2015 04:52:37 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2015 04:56:51 by Lifer

Llumys
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Celestial dragons


Small sample size, but here's what I got:

http://i.imgur.com/PosORUa.png

~37 kills per 6 minutes using Summoning potions
~29 kills per 6 minutes not using Summoning potions

~0.9 Summoning potion dose per kill

Average task size: 165

Average Summoning potions req'd per task: ~150

Average Summoning flasks req'd per task: 25

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For shorter tasks, the entire task can be done with Summoning flasks.

At 360 kills per hour, they tie with Waterfiends (at 720) in terms of ranged experience.

I don't think they're worth doing.

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The kill rate could be improved by carefully using Ricochet + Corruption Shot, Bombardment to simultaneously finish off and start another kill.

27-Jul-2015 08:49:11

Llumys
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Here's something I thought was cool.

Dark beasts' combat efficiency is near 100%.

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Greatest combat rates

840k melee xp/h (Airut, 420 kills/h)

761k ranged xp/h (Dark beasts (ranged), 900 kills/h)

846k magic xp/h (Glacor, 170 kills/h)

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At 900 Dark beast kills per hour, with a combat ratio of 3 melee to 1 ranged, Dark beasts yield the following:

571k melee xp/h

190k ranged xp/h

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In terms of melee xp, Dark beasts are roughly 68% efficient.

In terms of ranged xp, Dark beasts are roughly 25& efficient.

therefore,

In terms of combat experience, Dark beasts are roughly 93% efficient.

They're also ~80k farming xp/h, which is fantastic.

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I'm comparing them to Abyssal demons, which might seem more valuable at first glance, as their raw melee xp rate is greater.

At 950 Abyssal demons kills per hour, with a combat ratio of 19 melee to 1 magic, Abyssal demons yield the following:

712k melee xp/h

38k magic xp/h

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In terms of melee xp, Abyssal demons are roughly 85% efficient.

In terms of magic xp, Abyssal demons are roughly 4% efficient.

therefore,

In terms of combat experience, Abyssal demons are roughly 89% efficient.

27-Jul-2015 13:49:00 - Last edited on 27-Jul-2015 14:30:53 by Llumys

Ziksy
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Lifer said :
For abyssal demons:

Scythe (important to herd ~4-6 abyssal demons together) + brawler demon familiar + ring of fire scrolls + Supreme ovl + super prayer renewal + 3 super restore flasks + 3 spaces for crim and blue charm, and contract + mory legs 4.

Keep spamming summoning potions so the brawler demon can consistently spec. That set up gets around 950 kills per hour. With mask of abyss not yet transformed, it's 1030 kills per hour.

No attuned Ecto+DHN for prayer?
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27-Jul-2015 14:09:34

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