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For Kree'arra, again out of task, I averaged 60 kills/instance. Including the time needed to get kc and to make instance, it equates to an effective 57.2 kills/h (I don't know which of them you'll consider). A problem, though, it that ALL armadyl minions count as aviansie for task (even if you only kill spiritual things for kc), so I'm not sure how you will include that in the calculations.
The other tasks you mentioned are really bad xp, so I didn't bother to test them myself (at least not recently). What you could do is take the slayer xp/h here http://runegamer.com/tools.php?t=morvran#default (or on my sheet - I included the xp/kill with bonuses on the calculations page) to get an approximate value of kills/h. May not be that precise after all, but it's better than nothing
and as I said, those are bad tasks anyway, which everyone should skip/block/unlist; I don't think precision would be that relevant for them.
As for the gwd tasks though, there's something new I want to test: hard mode. I always though it would be too slow, but when walking them it might actually be worth it. And with the other advantage of soulstones.
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Edit: the arma rate was with nox staff, virtus and normal overloads (more precisely, holy overloads). I do plan to test t90 armour + supreme overload to compare with it eventually, but atm I'm more worried about hard mode.
The other tasks you mentioned are really bad xp, so I didn't bother to test them myself (at least not recently). What you could do is take the slayer xp/h here http://runegamer.com/tools.php?t=morvran#default (or on my sheet - I included the xp/kill with bonuses on the calculations page) to get an approximate value of kills/h. May not be that precise after all, but it's better than nothing
and as I said, those are bad tasks anyway, which everyone should skip/block/unlist; I don't think precision would be that relevant for them.
As for the gwd tasks though, there's something new I want to test: hard mode. I always though it would be too slow, but when walking them it might actually be worth it. And with the other advantage of soulstones.
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Wise Thoth
Edit: the arma rate was with nox staff, virtus and normal overloads (more precisely, holy overloads). I do plan to test t90 armour + supreme overload to compare with it eventually, but atm I'm more worried about hard mode.
20-Jun-2015 19:31:21 - Last edited on 20-Jun-2015 19:36:18 by Yewnock
Endeavour
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Lifer said :
Hey guys, I will appreciate if we can get the kills per hour for the following:
Ascension Members (Rorarius)
Aviansies (Kree'arra + minions)
Aquanites
Desert Strykewyrms
Grotworms (mature)
Lava Strykewyrm
Mutated Jadinko (males)
Tormented Demons
Nihil (Specify the nihil type you hunt)
Vyrewatch (vyrelords/ladies in Darkmeyer)
It needs to be kills per hour because we want to calculate summoning as well.
Also: Greater demons are covered by Wise Thoth.
Could you specify the setup? Gear/weapon/potions? For example, if I were to use Bandos, Chaotics, and regular overloads, compared to someone using Malevolent, Drygores, and supreme overloads, the kills/hour would be very different. I would assume you want T90 power gear, T90 weapons and supreme overloads for the best kills/hour, but I don't know what would be efficient, and what would start to be overdoing it.
That's the latter I want. Except in bandos. T90 weapons + supreme + bandos.
You'd have to know that it's never overdone as long as you still get money back from slayer
aka spring cleaner.
100 supreme overloads is 60 hours worth of slaying for just 10m gp.
Malevolent armour also lasts 60 hours for just 15m gp too (top+legs).
So 25m total for 60 hours. Costs 416k gp per hour, which can be easily handled with spring cleaner.
Then extra drops like visages, razerback, pneumatic, and rdt drops should cover the rest of the supplies and t90 repairs.
Lifer said :
Hey guys, I will appreciate if we can get the kills per hour for the following:
Ascension Members (Rorarius)
Aviansies (Kree'arra + minions)
Aquanites
Desert Strykewyrms
Grotworms (mature)
Lava Strykewyrm
Mutated Jadinko (males)
Tormented Demons
Nihil (Specify the nihil type you hunt)
Vyrewatch (vyrelords/ladies in Darkmeyer)
It needs to be kills per hour because we want to calculate summoning as well.
Also: Greater demons are covered by Wise Thoth.
Could you specify the setup? Gear/weapon/potions? For example, if I were to use Bandos, Chaotics, and regular overloads, compared to someone using Malevolent, Drygores, and supreme overloads, the kills/hour would be very different. I would assume you want T90 power gear, T90 weapons and supreme overloads for the best kills/hour, but I don't know what would be efficient, and what would start to be overdoing it.
That's the latter I want. Except in bandos. T90 weapons + supreme + bandos.
You'd have to know that it's never overdone as long as you still get money back from slayer
aka spring cleaner.
100 supreme overloads is 60 hours worth of slaying for just 10m gp.
Malevolent armour also lasts 60 hours for just 15m gp too (top+legs).
So 25m total for 60 hours. Costs 416k gp per hour, which can be easily handled with spring cleaner.
Then extra drops like visages, razerback, pneumatic, and rdt drops should cover the rest of the supplies and t90 repairs.
20-Jun-2015 21:06:31 - Last edited on 20-Jun-2015 21:13:48 by Lifer
For arma, what I meant is that I didn't know which information you wanted
I have recorded the kc times too if you want it, apart from the actual xp rates. Also, I personally don't think it's worth not killing the minions, specially since arma is the most efficient way of training ranged/magic (in most cases); so in the end you'd just be wasting time.
And regarding costs, you should be making ovls for herblore training anyway (if you are going for 5.2, or all 120s, that is), so that's not that much of an "extra" cost. And supreme overloads are pretty good xp themselves on Meilyr hour + perfect plus. Regardless, even if you did not make the money back from slayer, whether using more expensive stuff is worth it or not depends on how much you value your hour gp-wise (although if you merch or use alts to make money, the answer tends to always be it is worth it).
In case you are wondering, the main reason I chose holy overloads instead of supreme for my gwd tests is because I didn't have supreme salves, and renewals could take too much inventory space (which is a problem for the 3h trips with ava I was going for) when taking supremes. With soulstones on hardmode that could be a lot better though, since banking takes only few seconds using max guild portal and it would not be a problem to go for 1h trips (assuming you can survive well with little food).
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I have recorded the kc times too if you want it, apart from the actual xp rates. Also, I personally don't think it's worth not killing the minions, specially since arma is the most efficient way of training ranged/magic (in most cases); so in the end you'd just be wasting time.
And regarding costs, you should be making ovls for herblore training anyway (if you are going for 5.2, or all 120s, that is), so that's not that much of an "extra" cost. And supreme overloads are pretty good xp themselves on Meilyr hour + perfect plus. Regardless, even if you did not make the money back from slayer, whether using more expensive stuff is worth it or not depends on how much you value your hour gp-wise (although if you merch or use alts to make money, the answer tends to always be it is worth it).
In case you are wondering, the main reason I chose holy overloads instead of supreme for my gwd tests is because I didn't have supreme salves, and renewals could take too much inventory space (which is a problem for the 3h trips with ava I was going for) when taking supremes. With soulstones on hardmode that could be a lot better though, since banking takes only few seconds using max guild portal and it would not be a problem to go for 1h trips (assuming you can survive well with little food).
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Wise Thoth
20-Jun-2015 21:58:18
Fatrekd
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Is it worth it to extend airut/celestial dragons?
If you exclusively do the 5 tasks I've listed only, I think there may be some room for extensions since totals 51.97%, and 48.4% is the break even.
Out of 10,000 tasks:
5197 tasks completed = 166304
You need to at least complete 4840 tasks to break even = 154880
166304 - 154880 = 11424 extra slayer points.
That's 380 extensions in 10,000 tasks - or 1 extension every 27 tasks completed.
I would say it's not worth extending because you just don't want to break your head figuring out when you're okay to use an extension
Is it worth it to extend airut/celestial dragons?
If you exclusively do the 5 tasks I've listed only, I think there may be some room for extensions since totals 51.97%, and 48.4% is the break even.
Out of 10,000 tasks:
5197 tasks completed = 166304
You need to at least complete 4840 tasks to break even = 154880
166304 - 154880 = 11424 extra slayer points.
That's 380 extensions in 10,000 tasks - or 1 extension every 27 tasks completed.
I would say it's not worth extending because you just don't want to break your head figuring out when you're okay to use an extension
20-Jun-2015 23:25:16
Lifer
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Fatrekd said :
Is it worth it to extend airut/celestial dragons?
If you exclusively do the 5 tasks I've listed only, I think there may be some room for extensions since totals 51.97%, and 48.4% is the break even.
Out of 10,000 tasks:
5197 tasks completed = 166304
You need to at least complete 4840 tasks to break even = 154880
166304 - 154880 = 11424 extra slayer points.
That's 380 extensions in 10,000 tasks - or 1 extension every 27 tasks completed.
I would say it's not worth extending because you just don't want to break your head figuring out when you're okay to use an extension
Factor in the drop rate of the tuska pieces also. Those are slayer points.
Fatrekd said :
Is it worth it to extend airut/celestial dragons?
If you exclusively do the 5 tasks I've listed only, I think there may be some room for extensions since totals 51.97%, and 48.4% is the break even.
Out of 10,000 tasks:
5197 tasks completed = 166304
You need to at least complete 4840 tasks to break even = 154880
166304 - 154880 = 11424 extra slayer points.
That's 380 extensions in 10,000 tasks - or 1 extension every 27 tasks completed.
I would say it's not worth extending because you just don't want to break your head figuring out when you're okay to use an extension
Factor in the drop rate of the tuska pieces also. Those are slayer points.
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