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Loki
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Chee arra said :
Weyburns said :
Chee arra said :
Loki said :
Bumping thread so it's not removed from the forums, since some idiot decided to mass bump/spam dead threads.
I guess you could say you're frantically trying to save this thread?

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06-Feb-2016 07:09:00

Renz
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Kags said :
Wonder if this will be updated to have a separate list of slayer targets, when optimizing for Invention?

The best combat xp rates per hour correlate to the best weapon xp/invention xp rates as you get weapon xp at a 6% rate of combat xp for a 2h (mh is 4%, oh is 2%) and armor xp at 4% of the combat xp. The only exception is when monsters give over 5k xp drops (only bosses afaik), which will cap the received weapon xp at 300 and armour xp at 200 for each armour piece. These xp caps make those monsters less efficient for invention xp.

The most efficient slayer lists (assuming global efficiency for 200ms) involved maximizing combat xp already, therefore the approach should remain roughly the same.
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06-Feb-2016 10:39:46 - Last edited on 06-Feb-2016 10:40:13 by Renz

Endeavour
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Renz said :
Kags said :
Wonder if this will be updated to have a separate list of slayer targets, when optimizing for Invention?

The best combat xp rates per hour correlate to the best weapon xp/invention xp rates as you get weapon xp at a 6% rate of combat xp for a 2h (mh is 4%, oh is 2%) and armor xp at 4% of the combat xp. The only exception is when monsters give over 5k xp drops (only bosses afaik), which will cap the received weapon xp at 300 and armour xp at 200 for each armour piece. These xp caps make those monsters less efficient for invention xp.

The most efficient slayer lists (assuming global efficiency for 200ms) involved maximizing combat xp already, therefore the approach should remain roughly the same.

In addition to that, I believe Lifer said on another thread that with just a weapon siphon 200M melee skills would already give you such a chunk of Invention XP that you don't really need to break down armour and such, or skip bosses like Armadyl for the sake of Invention XP. Signatures are overrated.

06-Feb-2016 12:37:15

Renz
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Endeavour said :

In addition to that, I believe Lifer said on another thread that with just a weapon siphon 200M melee skills would already give you such a chunk of Invention XP that you don't really need to break down armour and such, or skip bosses like Armadyl for the sake of Invention XP.

That is indeed correct. Neither Invention or Slayer are limiting factors. So keeping the focus on combat xp is the way to go.
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06-Feb-2016 13:07:37

Yewnock
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agen said :
I've been told that Ripper Demons are actually good post xp buff w/ darklight, has anyone tested or should I be the sacrifice? Wasn't only slayer xp buffed though? I did hear they are op slayer xp (like 500k+ xp/h), but generally (ofc, depends on each person) I think focusing on better combat xp tasks is still better.

I made no calculations though after they added those tasks (and I won't do them until they fix perks and we can update kills/h on slayer tasks), so it's possible slayer xp may be more valuable in the future. Talking of which, doing elves with scythe is also very good for slayer xp, potentially 400k+ xp/h.

12-Feb-2016 21:48:04

agen
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Yewnock said :
agen said :
I've been told that Ripper Demons are actually good post xp buff w/ darklight, has anyone tested or should I be the sacrifice? Wasn't only slayer xp buffed though? I did hear they are op slayer xp (like 500k+ xp/h), but generally (ofc, depends on each person) I think focusing on better combat xp tasks is still better.

I made no calculations though after they added those tasks (and I won't do them until they fix perks and we can update kills/h on slayer tasks), so it's possible slayer xp may be more valuable in the future. Talking of which, doing elves with scythe is also very good for slayer xp, potentially 400k+ xp/h. I went and tested them and they are indeed OP af slayer xp (500k could be right) but they also give more slayer xp than combat xp (2830 slayer xp and 2245 combat xp) so yeah not particularly worth it unless you drumgunned your slayer xp or something

some notes on ripper demons:
devotion is great
reflect + revenge stacking with a defender would probably work really well but unfortunately i don't have a t90 defender and couldn't be bothered going to get a t80 melee one
debilitate also great but not as great as devotion (obviously)
probably worth using achto teralith for the defensive resets + defender damage if you were going to try to spam reflect + revenge + devotion

downsides include you're forced into using darklight + offhand (drygore/defender) so no invention xp from either of those unless you're a maniac and augmented an offhand drygore, if you decide to use teralith then unless you have achto plate + legs then you're not getting invention xp from that either and you're forced into a yak unless you're some sort of monster tank

13-Feb-2016 02:55:24 - Last edited on 13-Feb-2016 03:11:30 by agen

Yewnock
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JDogg said :
Is this still accurate? Mostly no. The rates can still be used to give an idea, but there were quite some changes made to slayer since the sheet was actively updated. New tasks, invention (and the perks are pretty good now), new killing methods, etc.

And anyway, personally, I don't think it's worth gathering data to update the sheet right now, since there are more changes to come (specially with invention - but maybe other stuff happens, like a task which can be done at gwd2).

02-Mar-2016 02:23:06

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