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emybaba
Nov Member 2004

emybaba

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@Rig0urM0rtis. I don't quite understand where you are coming from to say that I wasn't around when PK-ing was the norm. I see no reason for you to make personal remarks.
So it was Safescape to you. That's fine. I play the way I play as you do. If you wish to argue then argue the points and not make assumptions or accusations. Thank you.
So as stated earlier by Alt-F4 77, some players don't want to lose their stuff. I don't have a problem with that. Cos I usually have less than 3 items in wildy anyhow. My objection is being attacked by another player.
@tahki. That's the point I am trying to make. Jagex gives no options. I am only saying there should be an alternate option.
If Jagex wants wildy to be popular then put more good stuff, more rune rocks, more ice dragons, whatever it is that attracts people, then let people be tempted. But the options must be allowed.
And please once more @Rig0urM0rtis, do not make personal assumptions. Thank you.

28-Dec-2010 14:33:11

1quilla1
Apr Member 2007

1quilla1

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Tahki, what you and some others fail to understand is that the game has moved on since its beginings of pkers in the wildy.
I understand that some people want to live in the past, someone yesterday suggested having another version of the game like classic where pkers could happily chop each other into little bits.
I support the idea above of making the wildy really wild if it must go back to the way it was. Higher lvl and more revs. No doubt you wouldnt want it that wild though (not in your favour)

28-Dec-2010 14:37:48

Alt F4 77

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"I support the idea above of making the wildy really wild if it must go back to the way it was. Higher lvl and more revs. No doubt you wouldnt want it that wild though (not in your favour)"
I hear dat!
<----currently looking for another game (sound familiar?)

28-Dec-2010 14:46:15 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2010 14:49:13 by Alt F4 77

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Hi, I have some real doubts about the vote in the first place, as it mixes two entirely different concepts into one "yes / no" approach. Further, I suspect that the primarly voters are the player killers, so the whole thing is a bit biased.
I can't argue with the vote results per se, but I believe that the lopsided ratio of yes / no does not represent how RS players really intend to play the game.
If the PKers do in fact take over the wild, then it becomes nearly useless to anyone but Combat Pures, similar to pvp now. More or less, a balanced character will be unable to accomplish any of the skills requirements in the wild, nor attempt any of the boss areas, even King
Black Dragon. Mining in the wild will not be possible.
Simlar to how the PKers have dedicated worlds now, there should be nothing to stop "non PK wilds worlds" from existing in the new version. If people think that "those will be too crowded", then that represents how people really want to play, which is a "real" vote.
The reason clan wars is so over run (and the fix) is simple - just add more clan wars worlds. All it takes is a label change on the sign in screen. More worlds = better server response, which I agree is poor now.
Certainly, if there are going to be PKers in the wild - keep the revs - maybe add more to the dragon pits area. Revs will help it stay in balance.

28-Dec-2010 17:30:46

Sare Tog
Oct Member 2006

Sare Tog

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Interesting, at the core of the request to return the wilderness and free trade is the desire of many to have the freedom to cheat, murder and steal. The insistent request to return to the old ways is a very sad commentary on humanity. People will say and argue positive things, but in truth it is the darker side of human nature that is served by the referendum. You all will once again have the unrestricted freedom to use people, cheat people, murder and steal from people. Enjoy the darker side of human nature. You have proven that humans in general desire evil and are evil. 90% says it all.

28-Dec-2010 17:44:41

Matchbox42
Nov Member 2009

Matchbox42

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@Emy: Some of your posts make no sense whatsoever. You do know that people managed the wilderness before it was ever taken away, right? And another thing, they ARE moving events in the wilderness. Try reading the article.

28-Dec-2010 18:16:52

Spyro 2020
Sep Member 2023

Spyro 2020

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jadex you should end the poll now and just bring it back. it has been at the same percents since you bought it out. i doubt it will change by the 14th so you might aswell bring it back.
but w/e you can keep doing this so others don't get mad. and besides
this poll is 100% fair if yes wins which it will. we get it back.
but if no wins then we don't.
and i don't mind counts trowads yes since they don't care if it happens.

28-Dec-2010 18:25:20

Luckyluke193

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First of all, I'm glad they actually made this referendum. The petition was pretty ridiculous, everybody could copy names from the hiscores.
Now we have a pretty unrealistic result. If they make such an important referendum, they have to exclude accounts that were made by botters just to vote in this poll. I think a good restriction would be at least 4 or 5 skills above 30 or something like that. I don't think making it mems-only would be a good solution, because there are people like me, who aren't members most of the time, and just buy 1 or 2 months membership during summer (or other) holidays.

I haven't thought really much about it, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have both the wildy and the trade in one vote. Of course, old wildy would not make sense without free trade, because I can just let the person I want to trade with kill me to give him the "change" left after balancing the trade to fit the restrictions.

About the wildy: I think it would be good to have some world with old wildy and some with new wildy. That way there are at least some servers where the most common cause of death in the wildy is not boredom ( :P ) but you can avoid campers at Fist of Guthix, (the only place I go to in the wildy) or other places like clan wars, or whatever you people like to do in the wild...
About free trade: When g. e. and trade limits were introduced I was a young non-mem with most f2p-quests done, and just about to buy his addy armour. In the "old days" addy and rune armour were quite hard to get (on f2p worlds), however after the changes, the prices dropped massively and everybody could afford it on g.e.
What was even more shocking to me was how the prices of talismans rose. When I had a spare tally in the old days I was been happy to sell it for <150 gp. With the g.e., due to ridiculous min prices, I could sell them for 5k !!
So the min/max prices are not purely good, as some people apparently think. There must be some way to avoid fluctuations tho.

28-Dec-2010 19:07:14

warranged

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Bedtime beast.
"It seems to me that you enjoy playing RS by making other's sad and profiting from their hard work. This leads me to the conclusion that you want this update to happen because it will make it easier for you get more money with less effort; or because you have a need to validate your own self worth by convincing yourself that your better than everyone else, which you will prove through the use of your brawn, instead of your brain."
No, the freaking problem is that "hard work" became "too easy work".
When was the last time thaat a rev killed you? I have never been killed by one in my whole life....
wilderness was meant to be dangerous, and if people go in there for anything, it's they're responsability, not mine. Even so, I don't actually make money from pking, it is fun, and scince when pking has been easy? it has never been easy, you win, you lose, those factors makes pking challenging.
When did I say that I wanted to feel better than anyone else? I'm nowhere near the big pkers, but the challenge of becoming better and try to reach them makes pking even more fun.
Do I kill "defenceless skillers"? not usually, not much profit out of them. If it happends that they are carrying something, maybe would be worth spending my 2kgp barrages on them....
the use of teams is for certain reason: kill, that's what wilderness was made for, if you don't like it, just avoid them. Your ethic concerns are the least of my worries.

28-Dec-2010 19:24:59 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2010 19:34:10 by warranged

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